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Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:20
by Wuuupa
His technique is obviously not on the hemisphere of Ali, Louis or Tyson, even Povetkin was technicly superior to Aj. But he simply has Foreman kind of punching power, high speed and is tall and athletic and unlike Wilder Joshua can box and is not just a body builder with a strong punch.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:25
by dagilechia
welcome to the world of boxing
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:27
by Wuuupa
I am an old timer. Thanks for the welcome!
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:27
by ValMar
If he defeats Wilder, Fury and Usyk - he might be among the top 5.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:29
by oogiebe
Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:20
His technique is obviously not on the hemisphere of Ali, Louis or Tyson, even Povetkin was technicly superior to Aj. But he simply has Foreman kind of punching power, high speed and is tall and athletic and unlike Wilder Joshua can box and is not just a body builder with a strong punch.
Good points except the Foreman comparison. AJ doesn't have that kind of power. He's more like Mercer, but a bit more thudding.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:33
by Wuuupa
ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:27
If he defeats Wilder, Fury and Usyk - he might be among the top 5.
Top 5
He is much taller stronger than ali and louis, like a super heavyweight ag a heavyweight. In terms of record beating the best cw ever usyk and cleaning out the division reighing for a decade would put him up there with the axhievemants ali had.
Lets not forget, all so called atg top 3 hw had dark moments. Ali with his countless loses to norton (i know he got the gifts), marciano fighting 80% cab drivers same as louis.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:34
by Onetimeonly
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:34
by Ilya Muromets
Anybody and his little brother can start a thread here, and they do.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:35
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:38
by dagilechia
Vitali lacks good wins on his resume but resume is not only thing that matters (though it's very important)
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:38
by Wuuupa
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:29
Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:20
His technique is obviously not on the hemisphere of Ali, Louis or Tyson, even Povetkin was technicly superior to Aj. But he simply has Foreman kind of punching power, high speed and is tall and athletic and unlike Wilder Joshua can box and is not just a body builder with a strong punch.
Good points except the Foreman comparison. AJ doesn't have that kind of power. He's more like Mercer, but a bit more thudding.
Much stronger than mercer. Mercer had power similat to tommy morrison or alexandre povetkin. Joshua has punching power with the best you can think of foreman, tua, shavers.
Aj often doesnt even put his whole body behind punches like mike tyson used to do, yet still his opponents all land on the canvas. When aj puts everything in 1 hook and lands than his punching power equals to the best punchers ever
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:38
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.
Vitali has to be the most overrated fighter ever.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:39
by oogiebe
I really think Prime Lewis beats them all.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:39
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.
Vitali has to be the most overrated fighter ever.
Yup, he's up there.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:41
by Onetimeonly
dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38
Vitali lacks good wins on his resume but resume is not only what matters (though it's very important)
Unless you're 100% accurate with fight predictions, resume is all that matters. His is garbage for a topic like this. I'm not even going to bother with how laughable usyk is.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:46
by tiny_acres
I think someone needs to have their medications adjusted.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:50
by Impractical Poster
I personally feel AJ is the best out of the current crop. A showdown with Fury needs to happen to find out. With that said, it's too early for him to be put in a discussion for #1 atg.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:50
by Wuuupa
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
86 tyson also didnt beat anybody of note yet would arguably beat anybody ever
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:52
by Onetimeonly
tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:46
I think someone needs to have their medications adjusted.
Hey, 3 out of 6 are in my top 15. Aj maybe top 40, vitality might make top 50, I think I'd be comfortable sliding usyk in the top 500.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:52
by ValMar
Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:29
Wuuupa wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:20
His technique is obviously not on the hemisphere of Ali, Louis or Tyson, even Povetkin was technicly superior to Aj. But he simply has Foreman kind of punching power, high speed and is tall and athletic and unlike Wilder Joshua can box and is not just a body builder with a strong punch.
Good points except the Foreman comparison. AJ doesn't have that kind of power. He's more like Mercer, but a bit more thudding.
Much stronger than mercer. Mercer had power similat to tommy morrison or alexandre povetkin. Joshua has punching power with the best you can think of foreman, tua, shavers.
Aj often doesnt even put his whole body behind punches like mike tyson used to do, yet still his opponents all land on the canvas. When aj puts everything in 1 hook and lands than his punching power equals to the best punchers ever
Well done !

Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:52
by ValMar
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:52
tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:46
I think someone needs to have their medications adjusted.
Hey, 3 out of 6 are in my top 15. Aj maybe top 40, vitality might make top 50, I think I'd be comfortable sliding usyk in the top 500.
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Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:59
by Onetimeonly
ValMar wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:52
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:52
tiny_acres wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:46
I think someone needs to have their medications adjusted.
Hey, 3 out of 6 are in my top 15. Aj maybe top 40, vitality might make top 50, I think I'd be comfortable sliding usyk in the top 500.
That is a sad poll.
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 14:00
by Wuuupa
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:34
He's better than vitali. Hilarious people think he's an atg with zero wins of note.
Why are you surprised? We've seen that over and over again! Super-hyped AJ. It's really not even fair to him to make those comps.
Vitali has to be the most overrated fighter ever.
Old tyson and close to prime holyfield had no chance, barly won single rounds against lewis. Vitaly won rounds against lewis, lewis was breathless, vitaly took everything from lewis, arguably best chin ever. and vitaly wasnt even at his peak against lewis. The version that slaughtered saunders would be a nightmare for any heavyeright ever
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 14:02
by dagilechia
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:41
dagilechia wrote: ↑19 Dec 2018, 13:38
Vitali lacks good wins on his resume but resume is not only what matters (though it's very important)
Unless you're 100% accurate with fight predictions, resume is all that matters. His is garbage for a topic like this. I'm not even going to bother with how laughable usyk is.
of course i do agree that this thread/poll is laughable, Joshua doesn't belongs there as well
Re: Is Joshua the best Heavyweight ever
Posted: 19 Dec 2018, 14:12
by Wuuupa
Usyk is techniquly superior to ali. Gets punched less than ali and could equal alis punching power if he puts on extra muscle