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Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:02
by oogiebe
Whyte critiqued the top guys in the HW division. Here's what he said:

Alexandar Povetkin: "He's a good fighter, but also he's a coward as well, because he agreed to fight me at ringside after the David Price fight. "Then he said no, I'm not going to fight, I will sit around and wait until I get the chance to fight Anthony Joshua."

Jarrell Miller: "Miller is a big fat mess. I don't understand how he can be supposedly a world level athlete and just come in the shape he does. "He's a mess. How can he be over 300lbs?"

Tyson Fury: "I definitely would knock Tyson Fury out. I can knock Tyson Fury out. There's no doubts in my mind when it comes to knocking Tyson Fury out, none at all."

Wilder: "He’s got power, but a good boxer, a decent fighter, can see his punches coming ten miles away. He swings so wide, and he’s got no boxing skills, no boxing IQ whatsoever.”

Anthony Joshua: "Last time I sat back and waited, I was trying to box, and trying to wait for him to get tired. "This time I'll take the fight to him and I know I've just got to hit him once. I proved that already on two separate occasions, and this time I'm in better shape, physically I'm stronger. More boxing IQ, better speed, everything."

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:09
by jamamb
could go from 0-5 to 2-3, hes not beating aj, fury, or wilder. could beat the other two but also lose to them

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:13
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 15:09 could go from 0-5 to 2-3, hes not beating aj, fury, or wilder. could beat the other two but also lose to them
I loved his comments about Miller (obviously!) :OhYes:

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:16
by gilgamesh
jamamb wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 15:09 could go from 0-5 to 2-3, hes not beating aj, fury, or wilder. could beat the other two but also lose to them
:TU: That's my thinking as well.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 15:36
by Enlightened-One
• Whyte beats Povetkin and Miller, though the American is by far the easier opponent to beat.

• Dillian is durable enough to potentially beat Wilder. That could be a really close fight, since the Brit can punch and is better than nearly everyone on Deontay’s resume.

• Whyte gets comprehensively out-boxed by Tyson Fury (as the old saying goes: “styles makes or breaks fights”).

• Dillian loses to AJ, but Joshua has to overcome a few hair-raising moments before the ref raises his arm to celebrate his victory.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 17:03
by Onetimeonly
He could beat any of them. Joshua is obviously the biggest long shot, not loving his chances against wilder. He could outwork fury, but Tyson just proved me wrong in a big way that it wasn't just a hesitant wlad. 50/50 with rubbleroid and I'd favor him strongly over Miller.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 17:22
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 17:03 He could beat any of them. Joshua is obviously the biggest long shot, not loving his chances against wilder. He could outwork fury, but Tyson just proved me wrong in a big way that it wasn't just a hesitant wlad. 50/50 with rubbleroid and I'd favor him strongly over Miller.
"rubbleroid" LMAO!

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 19:26
by Rgoodwin
Probably none of those guys.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 19:41
by dagilechia
he would lose to all of them

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 22:51
by Skalamanga
Miller only, loses to the rest.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 23:06
by Nightmare Roy
Me might beat Miller, not beating the others, Fury would box his head off, AJ stops him again, Wilder lights him up and I think POV stops him too.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 04 Jan 2019, 23:13
by KiwiRider
Nightmare Roy wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 23:06 Me might beat Miller, not beating the others, Fury would box his head off, AJ stops him again, Wilder lights him up and I think POV stops him too.
Yep, I'm with you on that Roy.
Maybe on a bad night Povitkin might get caught out if Whyte can survive 6 or so rounds.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 04:02
by DrDuke
He can handle only Miller. Maybe now Povetkin can be handled too, but if he has enough of him left, he'll win Whyte.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 04:24
by candyslim
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 15:36 • Whyte beats Povetkin and Miller, though the American is by far the easier opponent to beat.

• Dillian is durable enough to potentially beat Wilder. That could be a really close fight, since the Brit can punch and is better than nearly everyone on Deontay’s resume.

• Whyte gets comprehensively out-boxed by Tyson Fury (as the old saying goes: “styles makes or breaks fights”).

• Dillian loses to AJ, but Joshua has to overcome a few hair-raising moments before the ref raises his arm to celebrate his victory.
2015 Povetkin destroys Whyte but I'd slightly favour Dillian to come through some hairy moments to stop 2019 Povetkin.

I've always said I think Miller outworks and outlasts Whyte. I'm losing patience with Miller lately but that's more about who he chooses to fight rather than whether I think he can fight. He can't match Whyte in the cojones department that's for sure. Whether that has an outcome on the result is questionable, it's probably more likely to affect whether the match ever gets made.

I agree entirely with you about Wilder. I suspect Deontay does too :lol:

I also find myself in total agreement with your comments regarding both Tyson and Joshua. Tyson is too mobile. Joshua is too complete.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 06:41
by lillywhite14
oogiebe wrote: 04 Jan 2019, 15:02 Whyte critiqued the top guys in the HW division. Here's what he said:

Alexandar Povetkin: "He's a good fighter, but also he's a coward as well, because he agreed to fight me at ringside after the David Price fight. "Then he said no, I'm not going to fight, I will sit around and wait until I get the chance to fight Anthony Joshua."

Jarrell Miller: "Miller is a big fat mess. I don't understand how he can be supposedly a world level athlete and just come in the shape he does. "He's a mess. How can he be over 300lbs?"

Tyson Fury: "I definitely would knock Tyson Fury out. I can knock Tyson Fury out. There's no doubts in my mind when it comes to knocking Tyson Fury out, none at all."

Wilder: "He’s got power, but a good boxer, a decent fighter, can see his punches coming ten miles away. He swings so wide, and he’s got no boxing skills, no boxing IQ whatsoever.”

Anthony Joshua: "Last time I sat back and waited, I was trying to box, and trying to wait for him to get tired. "This time I'll take the fight to him and I know I've just got to hit him once. I proved that already on two separate occasions, and this time I'm in better shape, physically I'm stronger. More boxing IQ, better speed, everything."
I think he goes 1-4, but he stands a decent chance against Wilder. Miller is the only one I’d make him favourite against.

He’s a little in denial about Joshua. Joshua will spank him in a rematch and get rid of him earlier.
Fury? Dillian won’t land hardly anything on him so can’t see him anything other than wide Fury points win.
Wilder? Dillian can stop him. Problem is, Dillian isn’t hard to hit, Wilder hits hard. I’d back Wilder
If Miller can take a shot that would be a fun fight.
Povetkin? He might be a bit too coy for Whyte. He carrries enough power to make Whyte think too, again, a good fight.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 07:44
by marvelous marv
Whyte is an easy fight for Wilder. He gets hit with something big ten out of ten times.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 09:46
by candyslim
He can punch too and he can box a lot better than Wilder. If you forced me to put my money down I'd probably go for Wilder but it's by no means a gimme. It's never going to happen anyway because no matter what Hearn offers him it would appear the baddest man on the planet don't want no smoke with Mr Whyte.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 14:08
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 09:46 He can punch too and he can box a lot better than Wilder. If you forced me to put my money down I'd probably go for Wilder but it's by no means a gimme. It's never going to happen anyway because no matter what Hearn offers him it would appear the baddest man on the planet don't want no smoke with Mr Whyte.
I think Wilder would treat Whyte like he did Stiverne (in first fight).

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 15:19
by candyslim
We can believe whatever we choose Oogie, safe in the knowledge we are unlikely ever to be proven to be wrong.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 15:23
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 15:19 We can believe whatever we choose Oogie, safe in the knowledge we are unlikely ever to be proven to be wrong.
I hope someday Wilder faces Whyte. If Whyte would win, who cares, so long as it's a great fight. I'm yearning for more good HW matchups.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 15:53
by Rgoodwin
Whyte is arrogant. AJ is going to knock him out again. I think Miller out works him tbh. Even Wilder is slightly more fundamentally sound than Whyte.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 16:37
by Onetimeonly
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 09:46 He can punch too and he can box a lot better than Wilder. If you forced me to put my money down I'd probably go for Wilder but it's by no means a gimme. It's never going to happen anyway because no matter what Hearn offers him it would appear the baddest man on the planet don't want no smoke with Mr Whyte.
New year, same hate filled bullshit. I was hoping your resolution was to stop making an ass of yourself posting g about wilder. That's a shame.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 16:43
by Rgoodwin
Wilder knocks Whyte out easy

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 17:32
by candyslim
Onetimeonly wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 16:37
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 09:46 He can punch too and he can box a lot better than Wilder. If you forced me to put my money down I'd probably go for Wilder but it's by no means a gimme. It's never going to happen anyway because no matter what Hearn offers him it would appear the baddest man on the planet don't want no smoke with Mr Whyte.
New year, same hate filled bullshit. I was hoping your resolution was to stop making an ass of yourself posting g about wilder. That's a shame.
Wilder doesn't want to fight him, that should be obvious even to you. Can't speak the truth around here coz that's hate, right.

Re: Who does Whyte beat?

Posted: 05 Jan 2019, 17:34
by oogiebe
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 17:32
Onetimeonly wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 16:37
candyslim wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 09:46 He can punch too and he can box a lot better than Wilder. If you forced me to put my money down I'd probably go for Wilder but it's by no means a gimme. It's never going to happen anyway because no matter what Hearn offers him it would appear the baddest man on the planet don't want no smoke with Mr Whyte.
New year, same hate filled bullshit. I was hoping your resolution was to stop making an ass of yourself posting g about wilder. That's a shame.
Wilder doesn't want to fight him, that should be obvious even to you. Can't speak the truth around here coz that's hate, right.
Wilder has potentially two big fights in front of him, and neither are with Whyte. Whether he wants to or not, it just doesn't make sense for him right now.