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HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42
by oogiebe
I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58
by Onetimeonly
Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 15:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58 Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol
Was just gonna say.. shame Ruiz moved on over to PBC. Hasn’t even fought yet.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 15:01
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58 Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol
riveting, isn't it? :lol:

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 15:13
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:01
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58 Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol
riveting, isn't it? :lol:
They're better than Jennings.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 15:14
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:13
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:01
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58 Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol
riveting, isn't it? :lol:
They're better than Jennings.
LMFAO! Sad but true! :lol:

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 15:15
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 15:00
Onetimeonly wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:58 Fury also has Rivas & pulev. Lol
Was just gonna say.. shame Ruiz moved on over to PBC. Hasn’t even fought yet.
The only shame for me would be if I ever was forced to watch Ruiz fight. I'd watch him take on Miller in a hot dog eating contest before I'd watch them box.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 17:47
by Best Coast
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Nice list amigo!! Thanks... :TU:

Could you possibly add a few of the newer HW prospects so we can get a picture of the long-range options for Fury-AJ-Wilder?

Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter, etc. I'm pretty sure Joyce is with Warren like Fury is, but not sure about the others.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:01
by tiny_acres
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 17:47
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Nice list amigo!! Thanks... :TU:

Could you possibly add a few of the newer HW prospects so we can get a picture of the long-range options for Fury-AJ-Wilder?

Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter, etc. I'm pretty sure Joyce is with Warren like Fury is, but not sure about the others.
Joe Joyce is with pbc

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:18
by Best Coast
tiny_acres wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:01
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 17:47
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Nice list amigo!! Thanks... :TU:

Could you possibly add a few of the newer HW prospects so we can get a picture of the long-range options for Fury-AJ-Wilder?

Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter, etc. I'm pretty sure Joyce is with Warren like Fury is, but not sure about the others.
Joe Joyce is with pbc
So I guess that means PBC would prevent him from facing Fury even though both guys are promoted by Warren/Queensberry?

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19
by oogiebe
Fury would annihilate Joyce.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 18:55
by Best Coast
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
I know it & you know it, but do you really think that would keep Joyce from challenging Fury if he gets a belt?

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:02
by oogiebe
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
I know it & you know it, but do you really think that would keep Joyce from challenging Fury if he gets a belt?
Yup. I don't think Joyce will get there to be honest. He can beat Charr, but anyone in top 15 can beat him, and some of the prospects have a good chance of beating him in the coming year, IMHO.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:14
by Best Coast
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:02
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
I know it & you know it, but do you really think that would keep Joyce from challenging Fury if he gets a belt?
Yup. I don't think Joyce will get there to be honest. He can beat Charr, but anyone in top 15 can beat him, and some of the prospects have a good chance of beating him in the coming year, IMHO.
Hrgovic would handle him but do you think Dubois, Ajagba, Dychko, etc are better than Joyce at this point too?

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 19:16
by oogiebe
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:14
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:02
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
I know it & you know it, but do you really think that would keep Joyce from challenging Fury if he gets a belt?
Yup. I don't think Joyce will get there to be honest. He can beat Charr, but anyone in top 15 can beat him, and some of the prospects have a good chance of beating him in the coming year, IMHO.
Hrgovic would handle him but do you think Dubois, Ajagba, Dychko, etc are better than Joyce at this point too?
Not yet, but they can surpass him in another year, except Dychko who isn't busy enough and too stiff at 29 y/o(?)

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:00
by tiny_acres
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:18
tiny_acres wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:01
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 17:47
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Nice list amigo!! Thanks... :TU:

Could you possibly add a few of the newer HW prospects so we can get a picture of the long-range options for Fury-AJ-Wilder?

Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter, etc. I'm pretty sure Joyce is with Warren like Fury is, but not sure about the others.
Joe Joyce is with pbc
So I guess that means PBC would prevent him from facing Fury even though both guys are promoted by Warren/Queensberry?
I'm not sure. I think Haymon would work with Arum with any other fighter but Wilder.
Wilder is his cash cow. He won't risk it until money is right. I also feel the same way about Arum I don't think he'd risk Fury against Wilder until the money is too big to turn down.
But what do I know I miss half the time with my predictions

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:04
by oogiebe
tiny_acres wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:00
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:18
tiny_acres wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:01
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 17:47
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Nice list amigo!! Thanks... :TU:

Could you possibly add a few of the newer HW prospects so we can get a picture of the long-range options for Fury-AJ-Wilder?

Guys like Hrgovic, Joyce, Dubois, Hunter, etc. I'm pretty sure Joyce is with Warren like Fury is, but not sure about the others.
Joe Joyce is with pbc
So I guess that means PBC would prevent him from facing Fury even though both guys are promoted by Warren/Queensberry?
I'm not sure. I think Haymon would work with Arum with any other fighter but Wilder.
Wilder is his cash cow. He won't risk it until money is right. I also feel the same way about Arum I don't think he'd risk Fury against Wilder until the money is too big to turn down.
But what do I know I miss half the time with my predictions
I don't know if I agree with everything you posted. Wilder just fought Ortiz and Fury back to back. Both risky fights.

I do agree that both of our predictions are no better than 50%! :TU: :OhYes:

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:09
by Best Coast
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:16
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:14
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 19:02
Best Coast wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:55
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
I know it & you know it, but do you really think that would keep Joyce from challenging Fury if he gets a belt?
Yup. I don't think Joyce will get there to be honest. He can beat Charr, but anyone in top 15 can beat him, and some of the prospects have a good chance of beating him in the coming year, IMHO.
Hrgovic would handle him but do you think Dubois, Ajagba, Dychko, etc are better than Joyce at this point too?
Not yet, but they can surpass him in another year, except Dychko who isn't busy enough and too stiff at 29 y/o(?)
Cant figure out what Dychko's problem is. He hasnt fought since early July and has NOTHING scheduled. All his pro fights have been in Florida and I dint even know if he is still in the US. Maybe he's taking a breather back in Kazakhstan.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
by jamamb
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
way too forceful of a word, more like hed jab and move to a wide ud

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:16
by oogiebe
jamamb wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:12
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 18:19 Fury would annihilate Joyce.
way too forceful of a word, more like hed jab and move to a wide ud
Shutout.

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:42
by oogiebe
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Arum/ESPN
Guido Vianello (suspect/prospect)

DAZN/Matchroom:
??

PBC:
Joe Joyce
Efe Ajagba

Queensbury
Daniel Dubois
Nathan Gorman


Please add or correct if you see something "off."

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 20:56
by Eolaithe
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Pulev is Top Rank. Oscar Rivas in PBC. Whyte is a free agent. Fury doesn't have to deal with DAZN or the PBC, since Wilder isn't tied to Showtime or Fox. AJ will face Fury on whatever network submits the highest purse bid. There's lots of other things you've missed. :brick:

Re: HW Champs: Promotional Affiliations

Posted: 23 Feb 2019, 21:04
by oogiebe
Eolaithe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 20:56
oogiebe wrote: 23 Feb 2019, 14:42 I usually don't pay attention to what fighters are signed under what promotional company, but since Fury threw a bit of a wrench in the works with his signing with Top Rank/ESPN, things got a little "soupy" in the division.

So based on who they are represented by, here are their easy fights to make with a stablemate. One can see Fury is the only one of the three top dogs with no viable challenger in his stable.

Fury (Arum/ESPN)
Bryant Jennings

Joshua (DAZN):
Chisora
Miller
Usyk
Whyte
Rivas (Added from OTO)
Pulev (Added from OTO)

Wilder (PBC):
Breazeale
Ortiz
Kownacki

So Fury appears to be the one with no choice but to deal with either DAZN or PBC in the near term, unless he wants a throw away fight. I'm still hoping Wilder/Fury is the next bout, especially as the WBC set a new deadline for purse bids, and have indicated that a final decision for their fight will be made by early next week. (reported 2/23 by World Boxing News).
Pulev is Top Rank. Oscar Rivas in PBC. Whyte is a free agent. Fury doesn't have to deal with DAZN or the PBC, since Wilder isn't tied to Showtime or Fox. AJ will face Fury on whatever network submits the highest purse bid. There's lots of other things you've missed. :brick:
Not all fighters are included, and the info is from the websites for the most part. Nice to get some help on this. BTW, why did you change your name to Eolaithe?