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HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 10 Mar 2019, 09:33
by oogiebe
Sergey Kuzmin drops from 14 - 18 on BoxRec after his razer thin win vs Joey Dawjeko.
Efe Ajagba rises from 41 - 27 after his 2 round demolition of Amir Mansaur.
Dawjeko rises to number 100.
I had posted last evening wondering if Kuzmin would actually drop after such a terrible performance and he did. Love BoxRec.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 12:41
by oogiebe
Ajagba to 26.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 13:35
by tiny_acres
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 12:41
Ajagba to 26.
At this time it appears to be about right.
Even though I'd pick Efe over several of those rated above him if they were to fight now
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 18:44
by Best Coast
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 13:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 12:41
Ajagba to 26.
At this time it appears to be about right.
Even though I'd pick Efe over several of those rated above him if they were to fight now
I agree. Rankings can only be based on what fighters have already DONE!! Although Kuzmin would be a very risky step up for Ajagba right now, I would actually have Efe as a slight favorite over the more-experienced Russian prospect if they fought today!!
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 18:45
by jamamb
efe would pound him i think
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 18:52
by oogiebe
Best Coast wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 18:44
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 13:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 12:41
Ajagba to 26.
At this time it appears to be about right.
Even though I'd pick Efe over several of those rated above him if they were to fight now
I agree. Rankings can only be based on what fighters have already DONE!! Although Kuzmin would be a very risky step up for Ajagba right now, I would actually have Efe as a slight favorite over the more-experienced Russian prospect if they fought today!!
In light of this last fight (no offense to Dawjeko who was his toughass self!) I can't see Kuzmin's handlers wanting to go anywhere near Ajagba at this time.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 11 Mar 2019, 20:43
by tiny_acres
Best Coast wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 18:44
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 13:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 12:41
Ajagba to 26.
At this time it appears to be about right.
Even though I'd pick Efe over several of those rated above him if they were to fight now
I agree. Rankings can only be based on what fighters have already DONE!! Although Kuzmin would be a very risky step up for Ajagba right now, I would actually have Efe as a slight favorite over the more-experienced Russian prospect if they fought today!!
Exactly
It has to be off of what they've accomplished.
Hopefully soon Efe can get a better test and prove his worth
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba (CORRECTED)
Posted: 12 Mar 2019, 04:12
by candyslim
tiny_acres wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 13:35
oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Mar 2019, 12:41
Ajagba to 26.
At this time it appears to be about right.
Even though I'd pick Efe over several of those rated above him if they were to fight now
Very true
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 09:10
by Fightnight Scores
Looking at the listings there are so many undefeated guys who I've never seen (not that I can recall anyway) or heard of and who never seem to get a mention in boxing talk. Anyone got any ideas about these guys below?
Adam Kownacki - 19-0
Oscar Rivas - 26-0
Tom Schwarz - 24-0
Otto Wallin - 20-0
Sergey Kuzmin - 15-0
Or is it a case that they are purely feeding on cans and won't really do much once they step up in class?
*Update* Looking at some of their recent match ups / events I recall Kuzmin against Price when he had to pull out. Don't recall if Kuzmin was impressive or not though.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 09:19
by dagilechia
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 09:10
Looking at the listings there are so many undefeated guys who I've never seen (not that I can recall anyway) or heard of and who never seem to get a mention in boxing talk. Anyone got any ideas about these guys below?
Adam Kownacki - 19-0
Oscar Rivas - 26-0
Tom Schwarz - 24-0
Otto Wallin - 20-0
Sergey Kuzmin - 15-0
Or is it a case that they are purely feeding on cans and won't really do much once they step up in class?
*Update* Looking at some of their recent match ups / events I recall Kuzmin against Price when he had to pull out. Don't recall if Kuzmin was impressive or not though.
you're probably the only person on here who never seen Kownacki. watch his demolition of Szpilka and Washington, Kownacki vs Martin was entertaining too
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 09:24
by Fightnight Scores
I saw the Thurman/Lopez card and Garcia/Porter, so it's possible I saw his fights on those events depending on how far the card he was on. Doesn't really stick out in the mind though.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 09:26
by dagilechia
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 09:24
I saw the Thurman/Lopez card and Garcia/Porter, so it's possible I saw his fights on those events depending on how far the card he was on. Doesn't really stick out in the mind though.
he's the fat, pale, bald guy who throws a lot (probably he throws the most punches per round currently in HW division)
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 10:16
by jamamb
kownacki has gotten a fair bit of talk on here
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 10:49
by Fightnight Scores
I'm only a recent member
IGNORE Kownacki then on that list!!
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 11:09
by ElJefe
Don't rate Kuzmin at all. For a guy who stopped Joe Joyce in 40 seconds in the ams he's done very little to get excited about as a pro. Doesn't seem to be a big puncher and fights with no urgency. Can't see him cracking the top 10.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 11:35
by oogiebe
ElJefe wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 11:09
Don't rate Kuzmin at all. For a guy who stopped Joe Joyce in 40 seconds in the ams he's done very little to get excited about as a pro. Doesn't seem to be a big puncher and fights with no urgency. Can't see him cracking the top 10.
Me neither.
Re: HW Ranking Changes: Kuzmin; Ajagba
Posted: 13 Mar 2019, 12:29
by dagilechia
Fightnight Scores wrote: ↑13 Mar 2019, 10:49
I'm only a recent member
IGNORE Kownacki then on that list!!
also you should heard about Rivas, he recently knocked out Jennings, Kownacki and Rivas are top 10-15 fighters, on the boxrec's forum ranking Kownacki is #10 and Rivas #12.