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WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 09:00
by bm117
Check out the ratings on their website. WBA basically just a footnote.
https://wbcboxing.com/en/welterweight/
A step in the right direction, the WBA has become a farce. Hopefully the IBF and WBO do the same.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 09:08
by Ruthless-RKO
Yeh, a strange one. I thought it was because WBA have more than one champion.
But at 140, only Relikh's the champion and they're still down there.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 09:10
by Ruthless-RKO
TBH, if they didn't recognise them as a major world title, then Thurman, Pac would be ranked.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 09:13
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 09:10
TBH, if they didn't recognise them as a major world title, then Thurman, Pac would be ranked.
Yes!!!!
That is what I'd like to see. Maybe we can get some mandatory unifications
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 09:33
by oogiebe
WBA is by far the worst rankings of the sanctioning bodies, but they all suck. I don't like precluding each others belt holders as it (obviously) makes their rankings incomplete at best. That said, the WBA has become a joke, even amongst jokes.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:09
by ewenhay
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 09:33
WBA is by far the worst rankings of the sanctioning bodies, but they all suck. I don't like precluding each others belt holders as it (obviously) makes their rankings incomplete at best. That said, the WBA has become a joke, even amongst jokes.
The best thing the wbc could do is rank other champions. That way we get unification fights and they still get their sanctioning fees as well as the moral high ground over the other orgs.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:10
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:09
The best thing the wbc could do is rank other champions. That way we get unification fights and they still get their sanctioning fees as well as the moral high ground over the other orgs.
Completely agree. I wonder if those fighters just refuse or their management makes that choice not to pay.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:16
by oogiebe
Boksgek wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:12
I think nobody really cares about the WBC does anyone? I rate the WBA far higher in every case.
You're kidding of course. The WBA is the worst of the lot. The WBC is probably the best, even though it leaves off the best HW out there.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:19
by ewenhay
Fighters still talk about winning the WBC belt. It has a historical iconic status that the wbo and ibf don't have.
All orgs are corrupt and greedy though unfortunately
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:20
by tiny_acres
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:19
Fighters still talk about winning the WBC belt. It has a historical iconic status that the wbo and ibf don't have.
All orgs are corrupt and greedy though unfortunately
X2
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:21
by oogiebe
ewenhay wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:19
Fighters still talk about winning the WBC belt. It has a historical iconic status that the wbo and ibf don't have.
All orgs are corrupt and greedy though unfortunately
100%
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 24 Apr 2019, 14:27
by oogiebe
Boksgek wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 14:24
I think the boxrec rankings are the best TBH, in some cases even they are flawed, if you carefully select you can achieve high rankings.
I also think that if you end up in a different weightclass, your rating should be halfed or even quartered in the other weightclass. Piles of top cruiserweight have no chance at all in the heavyweights, despite they will receive a ridiculous high rating. Tony Bellew was rank 3 of the world as a heavyweight, which obviously never made sense.
I think BR takes .54 when a fighter goes from CW to HW. We'll see as soon as Usyk's first fight is in the books.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 07:40
by Syntax Error
bm117 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 09:00
Check out the ratings on their website. WBA basically just a footnote.
https://wbcboxing.com/en/welterweight/
A step in the right direction, the WBA has become a farce. Hopefully the IBF and WBO do the same.
The WBC no longer recognising the WBA is like Telly Savalas not recognising Ving Rhames for being bald.
They're as bad as each other.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 07:42
by Enlightened-One
bm117 wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 09:00
Check out the ratings on their website. WBA basically just a footnote.
https://wbcboxing.com/en/welterweight/
A step in the right direction, the WBA has become a farce. Hopefully the IBF and WBO do the same.
Nothing has changed. The WBC has never recognised champions from other governing bodies.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 07:46
by greg
..all the usual tug-of-war and alphabets mudslinging at each other..
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 08:09
by Onetimeonly
oogiebe wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 09:33
WBA is by far the worst rankings of the sanctioning bodies, but they all suck. I don't like precluding each others belt holders as it (obviously) makes their rankings incomplete at best. That said, the WBA has become a joke, even amongst jokes.
Does this mean they don't recognize Joshua as a viable opponent for wilder?
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 08:14
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 07:42
Nothing has changed. The WBC has never recognised champions from other governing bodies.
I believe you're right.
WBC always adding 'Diamond' belts to fights, to try and force mando's
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 25 Apr 2019, 10:04
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 08:09
Does this mean they don't recognize Joshua as a viable opponent for wilder?
Funny you post that. As you know, the WBC doesn't have AJ in their rankings, but they endorsed an AJ/Wilder fight not too long ago. Money Money Money!
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 10:48
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 10:04
Funny you post that. As you know, the WBC doesn't have AJ in their rankings, but they endorsed an AJ/Wilder fight not too long ago. Money Money Money!
Non of the orgs have other org champions in their top 15 rankings.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 10:51
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑30 Apr 2019, 10:48
Non of the orgs have other org champions in their top 15 rankings.
I know. The point was how they "ok'd" the Wilder/AJ fight.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 11:05
by boxing_rocks
Did Mendoza not send Soliman a birthday card. I bet the reason is some ridiculous thing like that.
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 11:09
by oogiebe
boxing_rocks wrote: ↑30 Apr 2019, 11:05
Did Mendoza not send Soliman a birthday card. I bet the reason is some ridiculous thing like that.
Agreed. These guys are so power crazed and egocentric and apparently somewhat sensitive!!!
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 11:13
by kbackup408
It only makes sense if WBA no longer recognise the WBC
- la guerra ha comenzado!
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 11:41
by Deleted_Scenes
So, with Canelo holding the WBC and WBA belts, does this mean he could become his own mandatory?
Re: WBC no longer recognizing WBA as a major world title?
Posted: 30 Apr 2019, 11:41
by oogiebe
Deleted_Scenes wrote: ↑30 Apr 2019, 11:41
So, with Canelo holding the WBC and WBA belts, does this mean he could become his own mandatory?
Hilarious!