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Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 12:14
by rhino222
Failed to impress me tonight. He looks so so slow and cumbersome. I think Dubois and Gorman both beat him.
Ustinov was even slower than Joyce but still caught him a few times. Even my cat kep ducking as the wild slow hooks were slung from both sides.
Adam Booth will make Joyce a bit more elusive, but im not sure how he will increase his speed or ingrained style. I hope Adam can as Joyce is a very likeable fella and Id like to see him reach the top.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 12:39
by bigjack
rhino222 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 12:14
Failed to impress me tonight. He looks so so slow and cumbersome. I think Dubois and Gorman both beat him.
Ustinov was even slower than Joyce but still caught him a few times. Even my cat kep ducking as the wild slow hooks were slung from both sides.
Adam Booth will make Joyce a bit more elusive, but im not sure how he will increase his speed or ingrained style. I hope Adam can as Joyce is a very likeable fella and Id like to see him reach the top.
Miller called him the 'Black Lurch'

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 12:49
by Coco
While he gets stick from the likes of us for being slow etc, whenever other heavies are interviewed they always talk really well about him..
Partially maybe because he is a nice bloke, but they always also talk about size, stamina, engine, awkwardness and being damn difficult to beat. Most heavies are familiar with each other, there aren't a lot about, so they have all sparred.
While clearly Joyce has some obvious limitations, on the other hand most fighters will still find him really hard to fight and beat.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 12:55
by milpool
Coco wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 12:49
While he gets stick from the likes of us for being slow etc, whenever other heavies are interviewed they always talk really well about him..
Partially maybe because he is a nice bloke, but they always also talk about size, stamina, engine, awkwardness and being damn difficult to beat. Most heavies are familiar with each other, there aren't a lot about, so they have all sparred.
While clearly Joyce has some obvious limitations, on the other hand most fighters will still find him really hard to fight and beat.
I’d love to see Joyce against a decent heavyweight, Stiverne and Ustinov were too shopworn, as I believe we’ll see a more composed performance.
Joyce turned pro at a late age and I think he’s trying rush to the top and hence his rather wild style at times as he tries to get through his fights quickly and move on to the next.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 13:13
by oogiebe
bigjack wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 12:39
Miller called him the 'Black Lurch'
I remember seeing that! still funny as hvll!

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 13:22
by bigjack
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:13
I remember seeing that! still funny as hvll!
Lurch moves faster though

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 13:23
by oogiebe
bigjack wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:22
Lurch moves faster though
LMFAO! And a more interesting conversationalist!

Imagine Joyce after the first bell, walking over to the bell keeper and saying...
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 13:28
by Steveh583
Bet he's a different fighter when he's stood in front of you closing in. Smashes Dubois and walks straight thru Gorman. i actually think he might prove to be a handful for all of them.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 13:30
by oogiebe
Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:28
Bet he's a different fighter when he's stood in front of you closing in. Smashes Dubois and walks straight thru Gorman. i actually think he might prove to be a handful for all of them.
You may be right, but he still hasn't fought a live body. I think Dubois stops him. Gorman would bet pelted.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 14:14
by lillywhite14
Steveh583 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:28
Bet he's a different fighter when he's stood in front of you closing in. Smashes Dubois and walks straight thru Gorman. i actually think he might prove to be a handful for all of them.
This. X 10
I know a couple of chaps who’ve sparred him. Both said he’s a tank
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 14:23
by black panther
I just keep thinking about George Foreman (old comback version). He was slow as molasses with somewhat poor punch technique. Yet somehow beat a prime (admittedly chinny) Michael Moorer who although not the same force he was at LHW, was a very decent heavyweight who deservedly beat Holyfield.
Joyce has something. Not quite sure what it is and whether it can work at world level or even fringe. But I’m keen to find out! Hope Dubois fight gets made this year. Great times for the British Heavyweight scene!
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 15:18
by forcefraser
Big Joe is a relentless unit. If he has a chin on him he will take some beating.
He just does not stop and to get the better of him you need to be a master boxer like Usyk.
Not many around like Usyk in the heavies.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 15:24
by leejonesjnr
forcefraser wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 15:18
Not many around like Usyk in the heavies.
Only one that I can think of....
I like Joyce and the endless 'he is so slow threads' are a bit pointless now.
I think he will do well but he has just happened to come along at the wrong time to be 'the' champion.
At his age he has to get a bit of a move on but so far the opponents he has had have been perfect. I think given the heavyweight landscape and his timeline the WBA regular will be his highest honour.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 15:28
by keithmoonhangover
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 14:14
This. X 10
I know a couple of chaps who’ve sparred him. Both said he’s a tank
x2 There isn't an active heavyweight who outworks JJ. Some will outbox him, but I don't see anyone matching his work rate,. He's like a heavyweight Henry Armstrong.
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:00
by handsofstone
I like Joyce but he looked even slower than usual last night, still great value though
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:11
by KiwiRider
Anyone know who the TBA for Joyce is on 23/7?
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:22
by Gelis
Floyd Patterson. Dead for 13 years but still more alive than Joe previous opponents...
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:25
by Gelis
I fancy Floyd to outwork him
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:48
by Boxerbeetle
Has anyone else noticed that Joyce is quite slow?

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 16:57
by rd350lc
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 16:48
Has anyone else noticed that Joyce is quite slow?
Nobody has mentioned it .

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 17:03
by Nondescript
oogiebe wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 13:23
LMFAO! And a more interesting conversationalist!

Imagine Joyce after the first bell, walking over to the bell keeper and saying...
Not as bad a conversationalist as Dubois though lol
Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 17:18
by bigjack
Nondescript wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 17:03
Not as bad a conversationalist as Dubois though lol
I know he's not a heavyweight but Terry Flanagan could captivate an audience with his after dinner chat

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 17:22
by Nondescript
bigjack wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 17:18
I know he's not a heavyweight but Terry Flanagan could captivate an audience with his after dinner chat
Imagine all three of them doing the rounds as a trio

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 17:26
by bigjack
Nondescript wrote: ↑19 May 2019, 17:22
Imagine all three of them doing the rounds as a trio
I wouldn't be able to stay awake long enough to jeer

Re: Joe Joyce
Posted: 19 May 2019, 17:32
by Nondescript
Haha