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JohnMcMinn wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 12:03 BJS of course looks great against the Shefats of the world. I would have to see BJS fight some of the best to really compare the two.

chuck9788 wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 13:50

David Lemieux is offensively very gifted. Versus BJS he couldn't land a thing.

chuck9788 wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 13:50 David Lemieux is offensively very gifted. Versus BJS he couldn't land a thing.

JohnMcMinn wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:02 He's talented but nowhere near the level of Canelo's elite opponents.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 09:00 Canelo is very good defensively, but Saunders is vastly superior in this area. However, the Mexican has the edge in most other aspects, such as experience, calibre of opposition, offence (i.e. varierty of combinations), power, adaptability (he can trade or box) etc. I would say that Billy Joe is the busier fighter and possesses the better engine. And that's because he doesn't load up and throw explosive combinations. The Brit just lets his hands go and looks for point scoring shots rather than damaging blows.

Anyway, back on topic, Saunders is better defensively than Canelo.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:03 He is a B class fighter.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:03 He is a B class fighter.

What is his best win?

Man, Rubio K.Od Rubio.

ValMar wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:22 He is between B+ and A- (for me, of course), but his defense is excellent.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:28 I'm talking about Lemieux.

Saunders is a good fighter but nothing great, he is one level down of Jacobs level.

And well, he did not anything special in his career to talk like he is some máster of boxing.

But I know british fans love overhype their fighters.

It's a cycle.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑20 May 2019, 14:09 Nope, Canelo is vastly superior in defensive skills than Saunders.

Your opinion does not count.

GGG missed 1000 punches against Canelo in both fights.

Canelo defense is better and more complete, he can put pressure with defensive responsability.

And Saunders fought with bums, only.

Canelo showed great defensive skills against super elite opposition and he still improving.

Saunders only has faster footwork, nothing more and he is not proven in high level fights.

It's unfair compare.

Saunders wont be able to go 12 rounds against Benavídez, Ramírez or Smith.

He is not proven, stop overrating this man, he has 30 years old or more and his best win is a guy that was K.O'd by Marco Antonio Rubio.

Thats the truth.

Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 03:10 Saunders is garbage. A paid-up member of the Bum of the Month club, his record is embarrassingly bad. He was a giant at MW and found success in running away from smaller guys. Awful puncher, not that hard to hit.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 05:37 If Saunders really was as bad as you claim him to be, then why did Canelo’s team decide against facing him on two occasions?

Why did GGG decide against facing Billy Joe when the terms of their fights had already been agreed by both parties during two sets of contract negotiations?

Why was Demetrius Andrade highly reluctant to face Saunders, by asking for a considerable amount of time to become “ready”?

Why did David Lemieux previously reject a guaranteed opportunity to face the Brit and when they eventually faced each other, the Canadian boxer got embarrassed?

Why did Chris Eubank Jr. decline multiple highly-lucrative offers to engage in a rematch against Billy Joe, since it was Saunders that won their first bout?

This isn’t hearsay on my part, all of the above things really did happen.

If Billy Joe really was as bad as you claim him to be, then he should have been considered low-hanging fruit by his rivals, whereby taking the WBO title away from him would be easy pickings, but yet almost none of the big name 160lb-ers tried.

And for the record, Saunders wasn’t “a giant at middleweight”, that’s simply a bizarre thing to say!

Just to be clear, I don’t feel that Billy Joe is hugely impressive middleweight, but he is underappreciated and definitely a world-class operator.

Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 03:10 Saunders is garbage. A paid-up member of the Bum of the Month club, his record is embarrassingly bad. He was a giant at MW and found success in running away from smaller guys. Awful puncher, not that hard to hit.

Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 07:34You're utterly clueless on size, always have been.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 08:44 And what leads you to believe that Saunders is a "giant middleweight"?

Ricky wrote: ↑21 May 2019, 08:51 I have 2 working eyes. He was also much bigger than the tomata can he faced on Saturday, despite that being a SMW contest vs a fighter previously to have faught at LHW. Like I said, you have never possessed a single clue about size. You probably think Crawford's a bigger welter than BJS is a middle.