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Susej_SOG wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 12:35 Speed, explosivity, timing, creative counter punches, heart and chin.


People is talking too much about excuses, or other things, but the reality is that Andy did a great job.

He won the first two rounds and Joshua looked confused and worried about the hand speed of Andy, when Joshua landed big shots, Andy was ready to counter him with combos.

Andy showed a lot of heart when Joshua knocked down him, then, Andy landed sick combos in the exchange, like Juan Manuel Marquez, Andy was able to recover of those big shots and he neutralized the damage.

In the fight, Joshua landed monster left hooks and big right hands and Andy took all his power.

Andy showed more determination in round 5 and 6, in the end of the round 6, Andy landed a left jab to the head of Anthony, opening a space in the stomach, and then he landed a big right hand to the body that hurted Joshua.

In the round 7, Joshua landed a big right hand, Andy's answer was too good: fast combinations and the fight was over... Anthony was hurted and the fight was over.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 12:35 Speed, explosivity, timing, creative counter punches, heart and chin.


People is talking too much about excuses, or other things, but the reality is that Andy did a great job.

He won the first two rounds and Joshua looked confused and worried about the hand speed of Andy, when Joshua landed big shots, Andy was ready to counter him with combos.

Andy showed a lot of heart when Joshua knocked down him, then, Andy landed sick combos in the exchange, like Juan Manuel Marquez, Andy was able to recover of those big shots and he neutralized the damage.

In the fight, Joshua landed monster left hooks and big right hands and Andy took all his power.

Andy showed more determination in round 5 and 6, in the end of the round 6, Andy landed a left jab to the head of Anthony, opening a space in the stomach, and then he landed a big right hand to the body that hurted Joshua.

In the round 7, Joshua landed a big right hand, Andy's answer was too good: fast combinations and the fight was over... Anthony was hurted and the fight was over.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:05 You say Ruiz won the first 2 rounds...except all 3 judges had Joshua up 20-18.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:16 Teddy Atlas interview:

Boxing Prospect wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:22 Because judges on Match room cards have a history of knowing what they are doing

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:29 I'm just saying what the scorecards reflected. You think its gonna be any different in the rematch in the United Kingdom? AJ will get the benefit of close rounds as long as he keeps his head and boxes responsibly, which for him is getting behind the jab and looking to land hard 1-2 punch combos behind it. None of this planting his feet in the center of the ring and chucking 5 wild hooks inside a phone booth crap Cody Garbrandt style. Everything that happened in this fight beyond round 3 should be disregarded. Joshua was a severely compromised fighter fighting on wobbly legs.

vidal wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:29 For me it just came down to Joshua's inability to deal with someone with decent hand speed moving in under his punches.

I don't think he copes well with shorter fighters.

Plus, Ruiz seems to have one hell of a chin.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:31 LOL! How/Why do we disregard that? Don't you think it showed a lack of resiliency?

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:38 Because he got hurt in the first place directly because he put himself in unnecessary danger by fighting in a reckless manner that he has never before exhibited. Even after Ruiz started to punch back with authority directly after being knocked down Joshua STILL stayed in the pocket exchanging phone booth haymakers. Its one thing to try to jump on a guy after you knock him down in order to finish him off. It's another thing to continue exchanging bombs after the guy has shown you he still has his senses and is chucking bombs back. That is the exact moment Joshua lost his belts.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:00 Overanalyzing like crazy. AJ got sloppy as HELL after knocking down Ruiz and did something he never does, plant his feet and throw reckless 4-5 punch combos trying to end the fight immediately. In doing so he left himself totally wide open and caught a nasty short left hook from Ruiz behind the ear that he never recovered from. If Joshua takes his time and stays composed, keeps his range and picks his shots he systematically breaks Ruiz down. By recklessly jumping into a phone booth fight with a much smaller fighter who needs a phone booth fight to succeed, he put himself in great danger. He beat himself. He knows it. Next fight he will get behind the jab again, pick his spots to land hard shots, do what he usually does. Box responsibly.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:05 You say Ruiz won the first 2 rounds...except all 3 judges had Joshua up 20-18.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:38 Because he got hurt in the first place directly because he put himself in unnecessary danger by fighting in a reckless manner that he has never before exhibited.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:01 I had Joshua up 1-0-1 after two. He looked bad but did enough to take one round and draw the other.

Susej_SOG wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:50 Yeah, and that was crazy, but Anthony was the A side, really Andy looked better than him the first two rounds. Joshua looked confused as hell.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:38 Because he got hurt in the first place directly because he put himself in unnecessary danger by fighting in a reckless manner that he has never before exhibited. Even after Ruiz started to punch back with authority directly after being knocked down Joshua STILL stayed in the pocket exchanging phone booth haymakers. Its one thing to try to jump on a guy after you knock him down in order to finish him off. It's another thing to continue exchanging bombs after the guy has shown you he still has his senses and is chucking bombs back. That is the exact moment Joshua lost his belts.

oogiebe wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:01 I had Joshua up 1-0-1 after two. He looked bad but did enough to take one round and draw the other.

SenorPipino wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 14:57 I'm apparently one of the few who had Joshua ahead after 6. By 1 point.

I gave him the first 2 rounds.

diddy wrote: ↑03 Jun 2019, 13:00 Overanalyzing like crazy. AJ got sloppy as HELL after knocking down Ruiz and did something he never does, plant his feet and throw reckless 4-5 punch combos trying to end the fight immediately. In doing so he left himself totally wide open and caught a nasty short left hook from Ruiz behind the ear that he never recovered from. If Joshua takes his time and stays composed, keeps his range and picks his shots he systematically breaks Ruiz down. By recklessly jumping into a phone booth fight with a much smaller fighter who needs a phone booth fight to succeed, he put himself in great danger. He beat himself. He knows it. Next fight he will get behind the jab again, pick his spots to land hard shots, do what he usually does. Box responsibly.