Fury vs Miller Late Sept. Early Oct?

[oogiebe]

This is fast becoming the favorite rumor on social media. Seems to be in talks now.

I'm sure many of you were thinking this could happen after Miller was seen with Fury and other 'notables' at the Fury/Schwarz farce.

On one hand at least it's not another fighter outside the top 50, but on the other hand, I hate to see Miller 'rewarded' for his cheating.

[Finkel]

Well, he was always going to get a fight against a named fighter sooner or later; so why not? He has lost out on the pay day he was in line for against Joshua.

He still has the unbeaten record and is American. And I doubt he will get paid much more than Schwartz.
This will be a rehabilitation fight for him. Though it might draw unwanted attention on Fury's previous misdemeanors.

It works for Fury. Miller has a name, he is relatively highly ranked, and without the PEDs the risk of a truly competitive fight is lower.

[HomicideHenry]

I heard it'd be Miller by year's end. Made a thread about it a few weeks ago. But I suspect that Pulev will be in the mix too.

[oogiebe]

I heard it'd be Miller by year's end. Made a thread about it a few weeks ago. But I suspect that Pulev will be in the mix too.

Fwankie Wvrren reportedly said they are now in talks.

[SenorPipino]

Won't happen.

Fury isn't going to endanger a huge Wilder rematch by facing off with the rugged Miller.

The opponent will be closer to Schwarz's level. Not Miller's.

[HomicideHenry]

Won't happen.

Fury isn't going to endanger a huge Wilder rematch by facing off with the rugged Miller.

The opponent will be closer to Schwarz's level. Not Miller's.

Miller sucks.

Like Teddy Atlas said when Joshua was forced into facing Ruiz instead, "We got a better fight than Miller," because Miller's not beaten anybody really of any consequence and gasses out. He's wildly sloppy and nowhere near as fast as Wilder was.

Gerald Washington. Mariusz Wach. Tomasz Adamek. Johahn Duhapas. Hardly the all-star lineup that would make you think he'd endanger a future Wilder-Fury rematch.

[Contendeh]

The press conferences and trash talking would be fun with this one.

Be good if it happened - I’d be pretty surprised if it did though

[SenorPipino]

Miller sucks.

Like Teddy Atlas said when Joshua was forced into facing Ruiz instead, "We got a better fight than Miller," because Miller's not beaten anybody really of any consequence and gasses out. He's wildly sloppy and nowhere near as fast as Wilder was.

Gerald Washington. Mariusz Wach. Tomasz Adamek. Johahn Duhapas. Hardly the all-star lineup that would make you think he'd endanger a future Wilder-Fury rematch.

And plenty people said Ruiz sucks too.

Did Ruiz have a HOF resume heading into the Joshua fight?

One top 10 guy. One defeat.

Ruiz has talent but he was still very unproven at the top level.

Just like Miller.

Big Baby is a rugged SOB. Fury won't go near him. Arum won't let him.

[HomicideHenry]

Joshua despite his hype was nothing more than a big, bulky, stationary object just waiting to be hit. Fury is not stationary. If Wilder could only land two bombs in 12 rounds how the hell is Miller going to do something more dramatic?

[oogiebe]

Joshua despite his hype was nothing more than a big, bulky, stationary object just waiting to be hit. Fury is not stationary. If Wilder could only land two bombs in 12 rounds how the hell is Miller going to do something more dramatic?

Different sort of fighter. Wilder needs room to throw. Miller will maul and push and smother.

[HomicideHenry]

Different sort of fighter. Wilder needs room to throw. Miller will maul and push and smother.

And exactly WHEN has anyone been successful at smothering Fury? Most have tried to maul/push/smother Fury and it's never worked. Also, Schwarz is taller than Miller--- and with a 78" reach. Exactly how is he going to manage this? Just by literally running at Fury like some lineman in the NFL?

[oogiebe]

And exactly WHEN has anyone been successful at smothering Fury? Most have tried to maul/push/smother Fury and it's never worked. Also, Schwarz is taller than Miller--- and with a 78" reach. Exactly how is he going to manage this? Just by literally running at Fury like some lineman in the NFL?

You asked how it would be different from Wilder. I provided an answer. Whether or not Miller would be successful or not we'll maybe find out. He's 6'4" and 300 Lbs. I think it would be interesting. But, you're the expert!

[oogiebe]

By the way, Homi. did you just compare Miller to Schwarz??? LMAO!

[HomicideHenry]

Oh it'd be interesting. I'll grant that.

But what'll make it interesting is that Miller's a poor man's Deontay Wilder--- and Fury will make Big Baby look like a complete amateur, and further secure the #1 contender slot for the Ruiz-Joshua winner.

And no Schwarz is horrible. But Miller's a complete hype job. Why so many people bought into the glorified fatass I'll never know cus he's sucking wind after four rounds. Miller, in reality, is no top ten or top five guy. He's bottom 25-30.

Fury will school him. If not TKO him when the fight goes into deep water. He'll be eating jabs and right crosses all night.

[oogiebe]

Oh it'd be interesting. I'll grant that.

But what'll make it interesting is that Miller's a poor man's Deontay Wilder--- and Fury will make Big Baby look like a complete amateur, and further secure the #1 contender slot for the Ruiz-Joshua winner.

And no Schwarz is horrible. But Miller's a complete hype job. Why so many people bought into the glorified fatass I'll never know cus he's sucking wind after four rounds. Miller, in reality, is no top ten or top five guy. He's bottom 25-30.

Fury will school him. If not TKO him when the fight goes into deep water. He'll be eating jabs and right crosses all night.

Poor man's Wilder? There's nothing similar between the two fighters' styles at all! Good nite Homi!

[HomicideHenry]

Both are wild swinging brawlers ffs both are one-dimensional hacks. If you can't see that that's your problem. I hope the fight gets made so when Fury wins as easily as I said he would you can rub your own nose in it.

[DrDuke]

A good option in the meanwhile of Wilder-Ortiz. And this matchup is far from the worst for Fury, cause Miller is a big walking tagret.

[tiny_acres]

My big question is will any state license Miller ?

[candyslim]

I think it's a good fight and makes sense. I'd expect Fury to win handily but Miller's pressure could make it interesting. I guess it depends on how much the non-pharmaceutically-enhanced Miller is able to bring to the party.

[Enlightened-One]

My big question is will any state license Miller ?

It’s a tricky one, because Miller wasn’t under any state’s jurisdiction when he tested positive by VADA.

The NSYAC couldn’t ban him, which means that other commissions aren’t obliged to punish him either.

And it’s not VADA’s role to impose punishment on fighters either.

Let’s not forget that Miller didn’t actually lose his license due to testing positive either, since he didn’t have one with the NSAYC at the time of the test.

The sports’ governing bodies can’t really do much, other than refuse to sanction Jarrell’s fights, but a non-title bout between Fury & Miller would not need to be sanctioned by any of the main four governing bodies anyway.

The NYSAC has already stated that there won’t be any disciplinary action taken against Miller and Tyson Fury’s next bout is supposed to be staged in New York’s Madison Square Garden, which is under that commissions’ jurisdiction.

Are there any judicial precedents whereby the commissions had to previously address a similar situation or perhaps the NSYAC will be compelled to create a new rule that allows them to justify refusing to issue Miller with a license to fight in their state based on testing positive for banned substances during “out-of-competition”.

I honestly have no clue what will happen, but my guess is that Top Rank would not even consider wasting their time trying to orchestrate a bout between Fury and Miller if they thought it highly-unlikely that Jarrell would be allowed to box.

[cormack]

This is fast becoming the favorite rumor on social media. Seems to be in talks now.

I'm sure many of you were thinking this could happen after Miller was seen with Fury and other 'notables' at the Fury/Schwarz farce.

On one hand at least it's not another fighter outside the top 50, but on the other hand, I hate to see Miller 'rewarded' for his cheating.

it would be disgusting for JM to get a high profile fight after his recent drug fails - what message does it send out to the rest of the world !

absolutely 100 % against this on so many levels

[paddy chavez]

It would be late fury chisora ...easy night for fury

[SenorPipino]

It would be late fury chisora ...easy night for fury

Miller isn't an easy night for anyone.

Quick hands, lots of pressure, strong and tough. Hits hard enough. And also quite Big.

Good enough to give anyone in the current crop of heavyweights a real headache.

No one is knocking Mr. Miller out.

Especially an ordinary banger like Fury.

But it's just an internet rumor designed to fuel conversation. No substance to it and it won't happen.

Miller will be brought back in an under-the-radar bout to keep the predictable hysterics to a minimum.

And Arum will find Fury another harmless dosser to beat up on so as not to endanger that record shattering PPV showdown he has planned against Wilder.

[oogiebe]

Both are wild swinging brawlers ffs both are one-dimensional hacks. If you can't see that that's your problem. I hope the fight gets made so when Fury wins as easily as I said he would you can rub your own nose in it.

Sure thing.

[candyslim]

it would be disgusting for JM to get a high profile fight after his recent drug fails - what message does it send out to the rest of the world !

absolutely 100 % against this on so many levels

Probably the message that boxing is corrupt and morally bankrupt. It's a wonder that thought has never occurred to anybody before