Name an ACTIVE guy who should be given an opportunity to step up in a big fight who's not getting opportunity for whatever reason. Exclude Dillan Whyte.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:51
by ewenhay
Why not Dillian Whyte?
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:54
by world ranked
That would have an easy answer and actually prompt me to ask the question. I looking for more of an underrated guy.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:56
by gilgamesh
He recently got an opportunity, but did so well in it that I hope to see Yordenis Ugas get a 2nd opportunity at some point.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 12:57
by gilgamesh
One of the more criminal cases I can think of. Oscar Escandon got like 2 title shots right? Well a guy that shut him out every single round, and was robbed in one of the worst robberies I've ever seen has essentially faded into obscurity and received no opportunities of any note. That man's name is Tyson Cave. He's probably slipped by now, as that robbery was a long time ago, but it's disgraceful that Escandon got title shots, and this man who was obviously WAY more talented than him got nothing.
He is.. give him til the end of the year. It’s coming.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:01
by world ranked
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 12:57
One of the more criminal cases I can think of. Oscar Escandon got like 2 title shots right? Well a guy that shut him out every single round, and was robbed in one of the worst robberies I've ever seen has essentially faded into obscurity and received no opportunities of any note. That man's name is Tyson Cave. He's probably slipped by now, as that robbery was a long time ago, but it's disgraceful that Escandon got title shots, and this man who was obviously WAY more talented than him got nothing.
That was shame how Tyson Cave was treated . The WBA did nothing to rectify this.
If anything they might oughta slow their roll with this kid. Opportunities are undoubtedly coming for him, but they might not need to come so soon. They're trying to rush him into a Loma fight when he ain't ready for that.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:07
by world ranked
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:02
If anything they might oughta slow their roll with this kid. Opportunities are undoubtedly coming for him, but they might not need to come so soon. They're trying to rush him into a Loma fight when he ain't ready for that.
I think he's going take Comney title. I think there prepping him for that.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:21
by ValMar
I think Teofimo is ready (and willing) to face the best. The soft-matching would only harm his career.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:23
by gilgamesh
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:21
I think Teofimo is ready (and willing) to face the best. The soft-matching would only harm his career.
He's like 21 years old. He could use some seasoning. At the very least they might oughta match him against some Top 10 kinda contenders before just leap frogging straight into the ring with the #1 P4P guy in the goddamn sport.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:26
by ValMar
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:23
He's like 21 years old. He could use some seasoning. At the very least they might oughta match him against some Top 10 kinda contenders before just leap frogging straight into the ring with the #1 P4P guy in the goddamn sport.
I would like to see him against Davis tomorrow (if Davis has bal.l.s to move up at 135).
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:30
by world ranked
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:26
I would like to see him against Davis tomorrow (if Davis has bal.l.s to move up at 135).
has he beat a top ten guy yet at 135. I liked to see Verdejo, Comney, Beltran, Linares, Rances, Easter those level guys.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:31
by gilgamesh
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:26
I would like to see him against Davis tomorrow (if Davis has bal.l.s to move up at 135).
Davis' people don't want that.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:36
by ValMar
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:31
Davis' people don't want that.
Sad. The soft-matching killing boxing, especially last several years. I don't like UFC/MMA, but I can understand why the young people don't want to follow boxing.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 13:40
by world ranked
ValMar wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:36
Sad. The soft-matching killing boxing, especially last several years. I don't like UFC/MMA, but I can understand why the young people don't want to follow boxing.
But who's MMA stars everytime the MMA has the big thing it loses. I can see why both philosophies work. We as consumer what the best fighting the best but in MMA it's hard to follow stars because they lose so often.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 14:32
by Cent0089
Id like to see Alexander Besputin step up in competition. There are some rumors about fight against Radzhab Butaev. Nice fight of undefeated prospects. Lets see whi is the real deal and lets give title shot for a winner
Also interesting is the question who are the best fighters of th past who never got chance
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 16:02
by keirw
John Ryder, he has picked up a few domestic/euro level wins but I yet to have a world title shot.
He was unlucky that Lemieux pulled out of their recent bout imo and now looks like he might be fed to Callum Smith instead.
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 16:51
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 13:02
If anything they might oughta slow their roll with this kid. Opportunities are undoubtedly coming for him, but they might not need to come so soon. They're trying to rush him into a Loma fight when he ain't ready for that.
I don't know that hes ready or not, but if it isn't soon it's never going to happen. I think he can beat loma
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 17:12
by Joel2
Jeff horn, Lee selby (broner rumours) and Eubank jr. Brook and burns also seem to have Been forgotten
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 18:58
by gilgamesh
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 16:51
I don't know that hes ready or not, but if it isn't soon it's never going to happen. I think he can beat loma
I presume you think he's going to outgrow the division?
Re: Guys who should be getting opportunities
Posted: 18 Jun 2019, 19:03
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jun 2019, 18:58
I presume you think he's going to outgrow the division?
Most definitely, I doubt arum really wants it. He wants loma tomorrow.