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Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 02:47
by Woldemar
Who do you think of
famous boxers
unfairly forgotten?

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 02:52
by elmersalsa
Billy Graham. We seldom talk about him.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 06:23
by Woldemar
Nana Yaw Konadu (41-5-1,32 KO)

WBC super flyweight World champion
WBA World bantamweight champion (2 times).
WBC Fecarbox bantamweight champion
WBC International super flyweight champion
African Boxing Union flyweight champion
West African flyweight champion

One of the best boxers from Ghana.He beat Gilberto Roman,Veeraphol Sahaprom,Daorung Chuwatana,Cesar Polanco,Victor Rabanales,Steve Muchoki,Juan Polo Perez ,Henrique Sanchez Otero

He lost only good fighters : Sung-Kil Moon ( 2 times),Johnny Tapia,Daorung Chuwatana (Konadu beat him in rematch) ,Cesar Ceda (it was last fight Konadu).

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 14:50
by BoxBuzz
Should Wamba be on that list? Just curious.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 15:51
by oogiebe
Bobby Chacon

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 16:00
by BoxBuzz
growing up on the west coast...it's hard to imagine anyone forgetting about the schoolboy.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 17:08
by elmersalsa
oogiebe wrote: 08 Jul 2019, 15:51 Bobby Chacon
One of my favorites. A true warrior! :TU:

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 17:15
by Onetimeonly
I wouldn't call him forgotten.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 20:32
by APerno
A few lightweights from the 40s

Ike Williams
Jimmy Carter
Bob Montgomery

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 08 Jul 2019, 21:06
by elmersalsa
Gilberto Roman. One of Mexico's most underrated boxers.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 03:17
by Onetimeonly
APerno wrote: 08 Jul 2019, 20:32 A few lightweights from the 40s

Ike Williams
Jimmy Carter
Bob Montgomery
Wesley mouzon is one of the biggest what ifs.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 06:00
by Woldemar
Rodrigo Valdes

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 09:39
by APerno
Onetimeonly wrote: 09 Jul 2019, 03:17
APerno wrote: 08 Jul 2019, 20:32 A few lightweights from the 40s

Ike Williams
Jimmy Carter
Bob Montgomery
Wesley mouzon is one of the biggest what ifs.
Yea was starting to build a nice resume; do you know why he stopped fighting? Death date is 2003 (at 75) -- He stopped fighting at 19.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 10:19
by Onetimeonly
APerno wrote: 09 Jul 2019, 09:39
Onetimeonly wrote: 09 Jul 2019, 03:17

Wesley mouzon is one of the biggest what ifs.
Yea was starting to build a nice resume; do you know why he stopped fighting? Death date is 2003 (at 75) -- He stopped fighting at 19.
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Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 10:40
by chrisjs1985
Billy Graham is an excellent choice, I don't feel Chacon is though. He's talked about plenty especially among west coast fans.

Gilberto Roman is forgotten sadly. He should absolutely be in the hall of fame. He's probably the best ever at 115. Santos Laciar is another one. I'd add a couple of the finest Asian boxers of all-time in Masao Ohba and Chang Jung Koo. Ohba, unfortunately died too young but gave some memorable fights and was a rare talent. Chang is a legitimately great fighter IMO.

I also feel Luis Rodriguez is criminally overlooked.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 11:03
by Counter-puncher
Roman was a beautiful stylist, great to watch

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 11:06
by Woldemar
Hilario Zapata.Good skilled southpaw.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 20:30
by bwu
Jimmy Barry. Laszlo Papp. George Dixon. Everybody previously mentioned. And on and on and on.

My 21 year old and his friends think George Foreman is the grill guy. Olympic gold medal winner? Two time heavyweight champion? One of the most feared athletes of all time? Who knew?

A sad fact of existence is that over 99% of us will be forgotten, sometimes in only a generation. We're doing our part to battle the trend just by having these discussions, but we're fighting the tides of history.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 09 Jul 2019, 20:33
by gilgamesh
bwu wrote: 09 Jul 2019, 20:30 Jimmy Barry. Laszlo Papp. George Dixon. Everybody previously mentioned. And on and on and on.

My 21 year old and his friends think George Foreman is the grill guy. Olympic gold medal winner? Two time heavyweight champion? One of the most feared athletes of all time? Who knew?

A sad fact of existence is that over 99% of us will be forgotten, sometimes in only a generation. We're doing our part to battle the trend just by having these discussions, but we're fighting the tides of history.
That old saying.

Every man dies 3 deaths. When he learns that he will die one day. When he actually dies. And the last time anybody speaks his name.

In that last sense the mention of them means they're not all the way dead yet. The Legend lives on. :salut:

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 14:15
by keithmoonhangover
Woldemar wrote: 08 Jul 2019, 06:23 Nana Yaw Konadu (41-5-1,32 KO)

WBC super flyweight World champion
WBA World bantamweight champion (2 times).
WBC Fecarbox bantamweight champion
WBC International super flyweight champion
African Boxing Union flyweight champion
West African flyweight champion

One of the best boxers from Ghana.He beat Gilberto Roman,Veeraphol Sahaprom,Daorung Chuwatana,Cesar Polanco,Victor Rabanales,Steve Muchoki,Juan Polo Perez ,Henrique Sanchez Otero

He lost only good fighters : Sung-Kil Moon ( 2 times),Johnny Tapia,Daorung Chuwatana (Konadu beat him in rematch) ,Cesar Ceda (it was last fight Konadu).
That is a great shout. :clap:

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 11 Jul 2019, 18:25
by Nile4000
Mickey Walker
Cornelius Boza Edwards
Rocky Graziano
Gato Gonzales
Bobby Joe Young
James Green
Frank Fletcher
Jerry Martin.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 05:04
by scorpio83
John "The Beast" Mugabi
Iran "The Blade" Barkley
"Golden Boy" Donny Lalonde
Bobby Czyz
Dennis Andries

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 05:58
by Syntax Error
Joe Brown. - Lives in the shadows as he champ in such a celebrated division with some of the most iconic fighters in history.

Sot Chitlada - Cracking fighter, but was prominent around about the time Tyson was rampaging through the HW division, so due to that, not being a heavyweight and not hailing from the West, often gets overlooked.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 06:52
by Dart340
Elisha Obed.

His run to the title was full of high level wins and he was a fighting machine who was a national hero in the Bahamas. Until I borrowed Tony Gardner's personal copy of their 154 lb title fight and posted it on YouTube, there was no footage of his magnificent prime. Only footage of his downslide as a clutch and grab burned out journeyman getting chopped down by young and upcoming Middleweights.

Re: Forgotten Warriors

Posted: 12 Jul 2019, 07:49
by Woldemar
In Chul Baek

Big puncher from Korea. WBA super middleweight champion.47 wins,43 by KO/TKO.