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Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 08:14
by TopGun
Just listened to the podcast with Kelly Pavlik and Joe Rogan.
Kelly comes across really well. No ego and insightful.
Also if you watch it on youtube you can see he is a unit now!
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 08:47
by THEBUTCH
Excellent middleweight champion. I used to love watching Pavlik box, because he was a good, busy boxer who could whack and always exciting.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 10:23
by Controversial
Interesting that he's considering a comeback at CW, he's a lump now !!!
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 10:29
by TopGun
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 10:23
Interesting that he's considering a comeback at CW, he's a lump now !!!
Love the fact he says he wouldnt fight Usyk....I doubt he will make a comeback. He sounds like he is in a good place
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 10:30
by TopGun
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 08:47
Excellent middleweight champion. I used to love watching Pavlik box, because he was a good, busy boxer who could whack and always exciting.
I wish Calzaghe had taken the fight instead of BHop. If Joe had destroyed Kelly - which I belive he would - Joe would have gone down as an even bigger name
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 12:41
by gilgamesh
TopGun wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 10:30
THEBUTCH wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 08:47
Excellent middleweight champion. I used to love watching Pavlik box, because he was a good, busy boxer who could whack and always exciting.
I wish Calzaghe had taken the fight instead of BHop. If Joe had destroyed Kelly - which I belive he would - Joe would have gone down as an even bigger name
Even as is Joe has to be considered at the very worst one of the Top 3 all time at 168. Roy Jones and Andre Ward are the only ones you could make a case for being ahead of him, and I personally would have him ahead of Roy because Roy's run at 168 was pretty short lived.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:04
by Cyclops
gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 12:41
TopGun wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 10:30
I wish Calzaghe had taken the fight instead of BHop. If Joe had destroyed Kelly - which I belive he would - Joe would have gone down as an even bigger name
Even as is Joe has to be considered at the very worst one of the Top 3 all time at 168. Roy Jones and Andre Ward are the only ones you could make a case for being ahead of him, and I personally would have him ahead of Roy because Roy's run at 168 was pretty short lived.
Still... Joe should have fought him.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:06
by Controversial
gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 12:41
Even as is Joe has to be considered at the very worst one of the Top 3 all time at 168. Roy Jones and Andre Ward are the only ones you could make a case for being ahead of him, and I personally would have him ahead of Roy because Roy's run at 168 was pretty short lived.
Where would you rank Froch? Arguably Froch had one of the toughest fight schedules in recent years, Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham, Johnson, Ward, Bute, Mack, Kessler and then two fights with Groves.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:09
by gilgamesh
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 14:06
gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 12:41
Even as is Joe has to be considered at the very worst one of the Top 3 all time at 168. Roy Jones and Andre Ward are the only ones you could make a case for being ahead of him, and I personally would have him ahead of Roy because Roy's run at 168 was pretty short lived.
Where would you rank Froch? Arguably Froch had one of the toughest fight schedules in recent years, Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham, Johnson, Ward, Bute, Mack, Kessler and then two fights with Groves.
He'd fall in the Top 5 I'd imagine. Or pretty damn close to it.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:18
by Controversial
gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 14:09
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 14:06
Where would you rank Froch? Arguably Froch had one of the toughest fight schedules in recent years, Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Abraham, Johnson, Ward, Bute, Mack, Kessler and then two fights with Groves.
He'd fall in the Top 5 I'd imagine. Or pretty damn close to it.
I think Froch had a tougher career than JC, its a shame JC left the big fights right until the end, especially as Jones wasn't the force he used to be. The Hopkins win looked better with time though. It would have been a great fight between JC and Froch
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:19
by gilgamesh
Controversial wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 14:18
gilgamesh wrote: ↑10 Jul 2019, 14:09
He'd fall in the Top 5 I'd imagine. Or pretty damn close to it.
I think Froch had a tougher career than JC, its a shame JC left the big fights right until the end, especially as Jones wasn't the force he used to be. The Hopkins win looked better with time though. It would have been a great fight between JC and Froch
No question about it that Froch had a more challenging schedule, and list of opponents than Calzaghe. Calzaghe wouldn't have been undefeated if he'd taken on all the guys that Froch did.
Re: Kelly Pavlik - Joe Rogan
Posted: 10 Jul 2019, 14:20
by jamamb
cal wouldve been unbeaten vs all frochs opponents except ward, and hed have a chance there too