Dillian Whyte still WBC Silver champion?

[danundisputed]

Hi

Is Dillian Whyte still WBC Silver champion? As he won the WBC Interim title against Rivas, does the Silver title become vacant or does he hold both titles now?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Shouldn’t be.

He may have to formally vacate it.

But that belt wasn’t on the line last night.

[Syntax Error]

Hi

Is Dillian Whyte still WBC Silver champion? As he won the WBC Interim title against Rivas, does the Silver title become vacant or does he hold both titles now?

It's a great question, but if you look beyond the simple answer, it just highlights how pathetic the sport of boxing has become.

What's even worse from Whyte's point of view, it doesn't matter what kinder egg toy belt he's holding this week, I bet he's no nearer to a title shot than he has been for the last 18 months.

[Thomastearns]

Hi

Is Dillian Whyte still WBC Silver champion? As he won the WBC Interim title against Rivas, does the Silver title become vacant or does he hold both titles now?

It's a great question, but if you look beyond the simple answer, it just highlights how pathetic the sport of boxing has become.

What's even worse from Whyte's point of view, it doesn't matter what kinder egg toy belt he's holding this week, I bet he's no nearer to a title shot than he has been for the last 18 months.

True. He needs to make all his warrior like efforts pay. He deserves the big bucks as much as anyone for repeatedly putting it on the line.

That was one hell of a tough fight last night and Rivas was one determined dude.

[chinarich]

The Silver belt was created to replace the Interim belt so technically he still holds the same belt he always has...

[Ruthless-RKO]

The Silver belt was created to replace the Interim belt so technically he still holds the same belt he always has...

Difference is, if you hold the Interim belt the ‘real’ world champion vacated, you become the new ‘real’ world champion.

Not the same rule for Silver.

[chinarich]

The Silver belt was created to replace the Interim belt so technically he still holds the same belt he always has...

Difference is, if you hold the Interim belt the ‘real’ world champion vacated, you become the new ‘real’ world champion.

Not the same rule for Silver.

That’s true, but when they created the Silver belt it was a direct replacement of the Interim. Of course they then carried on using the Interim so you are correct!

[Ruthless-RKO]

Difference is, if you hold the Interim belt the ‘real’ world champion vacated, you become the new ‘real’ world champion.

Not the same rule for Silver.

That’s true, but when they created the Silver belt it was a direct replacement of the Interim. Of course they then carried on using the Interim so you are correct!

Yeh. That’s what happened.

[northern]

Essentially it is the same belt, typically the silver champion is next or should be next to fight for the full title, likewise the Interim champion has to unify that belt with the World champion as soon as possible.
(He has been more or less upgraded because his status as #1 contender and silver champion has been overlooked for so long)

Sadly that won't be the case, the WBC have given Whyte a version of the world title since Wilder has tied up the full title with a second defence against Ortiz, the outcome of which has 2 results:

1)Ortiz wins, Whyte must be the next to fight for the full title to unify the Interim and World titles. If Ortiz refuses then Whyte becomes full champion by default.
(For an example, see Ken Norton being made champion after Leon spinks opted to rematch Muhammad Ali instead of facing Norton to defend the belt.)

2) Wilder wins, Whyte will be made to wait since a rematch between Wilder and Tyson Fury has already been agreed, in principle at least.

[danundisputed]

Still a confusing situation, as written, the WBC Silver title been created to replace the interim title, which is not the case.
I guess Whyte's Silver title is vacant now, cause he is "upgraded" as the interim champion and should get his title shot at the real WBC world title, hopefully soon. I hope the new WBC Rankings will bring light in that case.

[Enlightened-One]

As far as I’m concerned, the Silver and the Interim titles fulfil a different purpose for the WBC, with the former being slightly inferior to the latter.

I can provide examples where the WBC had Silver and Interim titleholders coexisting within the same weight division during the same timeframe (i.e. Chavez Jr. and Zbik at middleweight in 2010, as well as Xiaojun and Lopez at super bantamweight in 2015).

The WBC simply considers the Silver title as being superior to all their other championships barring the World or Diamond belts. That's its only purpose.

The WBC only issues Interim titles on their sole discretion and in special circumstances (so not consistently), whenever their world champion is temporarily unavailable to defend their belt.

The WBC claims to consider the Interim titleholder title as the “true” world champion, barring the absence of a fight between against the actual holder of that belt.

That being said, a Silver or an Interim champion is not always automatically instated as the WBC’s mandatory challenger, which we've seen with the Jorge Arce, Jermall Charlo and the Dillian Whyte situations.

A fighter can only become a mandatory challenger for the WBC’s world title after successfully winning a final eliminator or under special circumstances when the WBC’s board decides to award this status.

Didn’t Eleider Alvarez capture the WBC Silver title from Ryno Lindberg, became the mandatory challenger to Adonis Stevenson’s world title when he defeated Jean Pascal and then subsequently refused to face Oleksandr Gvozdyk for the WBC’s Interim title when he was ordered to do so?

I can’t think of an instance where a fighter has held both the Silver and Interim titles at the same time though, but there’s nothing in the rulebook specifically written to prevent this from being a distinct possibility.

I'm guessing the Silver title has been vacated by Whyte, since the holder of the Interim championship is considered by the WBC as being the "true" world champion. There's no logical reason for any fighter to hold both titles, despite the literal interpretation of the rulebook.