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Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 06:16
by Ruthless-RKO
There will be plenty of this list..
Not talking about close fights, unless it was a close but clear.. A win where the majority of boxing public saw 1 winner, who didn't get the nod.
Shall we begin?
Mauricio Herrera
Axel Schulz x2
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 07:06
by Ruthless-RKO
Does anyone remember
Dave Tiberi?
He's the main reason I started this thread as well.
Fought his heart out against James Toney.. Lost via split decision..
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Notes
- A point was deducted from Tiberi for a low blow in round 6.
- In a fight where many felt that Tiberi dominated, Toney's split decision victory (by scores of 115-111, 115-111 and 111-117) prompted U.S. Senator William Roth of Delaware to call for an investigation of the sport.
- The investigation uncovered the fact that the two judges that awarded the fight to Toney, were not licensed in the state of New Jersey.
- Tiberi chose to retire, even though he was in the prime of his career, rather than fight again.
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Tiberi retired at 25 years old! - It was his first and last world title shot.
Scores
Judge: Frank Garza 115-112 (Toney)
Judge: Bill Lerch 115-112 (Toney)
Judge: Frank Brunette 111-117 (Tiberi)
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 08:31
by Onetimeonly
Tyrone Everett was probably the worst.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 08:32
by littlepug
Ray Close v Eubank
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 08:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 08:31
Tyrone Everett was probably the worst.
He died shortly after his last bout? What happened?
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 09:19
by oogiebe
Billy Graham.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 09:41
by Ruthless-RKO
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 09:19
Billy Graham.
First 2 fights with Kid?
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 10:00
by oogiebe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 09:41
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 09:19
Billy Graham.
First 2 fights with Kid?
Second fight was for the MW championship. Most ringsiders had Graham winning, including my dad.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 10:55
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 08:51
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 08:31
Tyrone Everett was probably the worst.
He died shortly after his last bout? What happened?
His gf caught him with a tranny and shot him.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 11:04
by scartissue
Armando Muniz in his first fight with Jose Napoles
Eder Gonzalez in his first fight with Juan Martin Coggi
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 11:13
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 10:55
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 08:51
He died shortly after his last bout? What happened?
His gf caught him with a tranny and shot him.
You're not being serious are you?
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 11:15
by scartissue
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:13
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 10:55
His gf caught him with a tranny and shot him.
You're not being serious are you?
He is absolutely on the money. Who knows what goes on in those mean streets.
Back on topic, I would also add in robberies such as Frankie Duarte against Bernardo Pinango and the first fight between Azumah Nelson and Mario Martinez. In both case it prevented them from becoming world champs.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 11:25
by DrDuke
Andrew Golota X2. Against Byrd, which is a moderate robbery, and against Ruiz, which is a pure f*cking robbery.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 11:26
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:13
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 10:55
His gf caught him with a tranny and shot him.
You're not being serious are you?
I couldn't make that up.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 12:20
by Duran1970
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 07:06
Does anyone remember
Dave Tiberi?
He's the main reason I started this thread as well.
Fought his heart out against James Toney.. Lost via split decision..
**********************
Notes
- A point was deducted from Tiberi for a low blow in round 6.
- In a fight where many felt that Tiberi dominated, Toney's split decision victory (by scores of 115-111, 115-111 and 111-117) prompted U.S. Senator William Roth of Delaware to call for an investigation of the sport.
- The investigation uncovered the fact that the two judges that awarded the fight to Toney, were not licensed in the state of New Jersey.
- Tiberi chose to retire, even though he was in the prime of his career, rather than fight again.
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Tiberi retired at 25 years old! - It was his first and last world title shot.
Scores
Judge: Frank Garza 115-112 (Toney)
Judge: Bill Lerch 115-112 (Toney)
Judge: Frank Brunette 111-117 (Tiberi)
That look on Jackie Kallens face during the decision still makes me sick..as if she's telling Toney, "see James, I told ya we'd take care of it."
After all the robberies through the years this one always stands out with me..still bothers me.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 12:25
by Ruthless-RKO
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:26
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:13
You're not being serious are you?
I couldn't make that up.
Just researched..
Trans was called Tyrone Price
His GF was sentenced to five-to-ten years in prison!
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 12:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Should we include Martin Murray?
At worst he should be a 1 time world champion.
Martinez and Sturm fights.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 12:32
by margaret thatcher
I had Sturm beating him. Felt Martinez could've gone either way.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 12:42
by Onetimeonly
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 12:25
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:26
I couldn't make that up.
Just researched..
Trans was called Tyrone Price
His GF was sentenced to five-to-ten years in prison!
He also potentially pitched a 15 round shutout in his hometown and got robbed against a Puerto Rican.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 13:08
by Perseus
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 12:32
I had Sturm beating him. Felt Martinez could've gone either way.
Agreed.
Both close enough to reasonably go ether way.
A close decision not going your way doesn't make it a robbery.
Murray was not the victim of a robbery in either fight.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 16:51
by Flump
Michael Brodie vs Willie Jorrin - Poor poor decision.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 17:00
by gilgamesh
This wasn't a World Title fight, but Oscar Escandon went on to get at least 2 title shots after his fight with Tyson Cave which was a blatant robbery while Tyson Cave got bubkus.
It's reasonable to believe that had Cave correctly gotten the decision here, he would've gotten those title opportunities.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 17:02
by gilgamesh
Jose Armando Santa Cruz against Joel Casamayor...it was an Interim World Title, but he should've won it.
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 01 Aug 2019, 18:46
by Duran1970
George Chuvalo.
Robbed against Terrell
Re: Boxers Who Never Got to Become World Champions Because of Robberies?
Posted: 02 Aug 2019, 09:05
by Onetimeonly
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 17:02
Jose Armando Santa Cruz against Joel Casamayor...it was an Interim World Title, but he should've won it.
Brutal decision, but that was for the beloved lineal and magazine lightweight titles that Joel somehow won in a Jr welterweight fight