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Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 15:38
by cormack
Who would you like to see going in against Usyk ??

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 15:40
by Ilya Muromets
I thought he's supposed to be fighting in Sep or Oct. Why isn't it listed on Boxrec? He might clean out the whole heavyweight div. Or he might not. That was profound, wasn't it?

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 15:42
by cormack
Ilya Muromets wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 15:40 I thought he's supposed to be fighting in Sep or Oct. Why isn't it listed on Boxrec? He might clean out the whole heavyweight div. Or he might not. That was profound, wasn't it?
fight has been confirmed for Oct 12 but opponent TBA

Hunter ?

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 17:26
by KiwiRider
Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I am prepared to be disappointed.
I would like a boxrec top #15 opponent ideally. Someone either fast and mobile like Parker and Kownacki, or a hard hitter. Someone who can prove Usyk belongs in the division.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 18:26
by kbackup408
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 17:26 Maybe I'm a bit jaded, but I am prepared to be disappointed.
I would like a boxrec top #15 opponent ideally. Someone either fast and mobile like Parker and Kownacki, or a hard hitter. Someone who can prove Usyk belongs in the division.
I don't think Usyk's team will want to fight Parker in his first bout at HW - could be Takam

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 18:27
by marvelous marv
Schwarz, Hammer, Helenius so many big names.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 18:28
by joshj909
I think the best possible opponents would be the likes of Hammer, Price, Kabayel, Dawejko

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 18:34
by oogiebe
joshj909 wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 18:28 I think the best possible opponents would be the likes of Hammer, Price, Kabayel, Dawejko
Interesting. I think Price would actually answer some questions without a tremendous amount of risk.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 18:40
by jujigatame
Is it no longer Takam? That was a pointless fight anyway. Hell, any fight against anyone outside the top 5 is pointless. Usyk vs. any non-elite HW will be completely one-sided.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 16 Aug 2019, 19:19
by Onetimeonly
jujigatame wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 18:40 Is it no longer Takam? That was a pointless fight anyway. Hell, any fight against anyone outside the top 5 is pointless. Usyk vs. any non-elite HW will be completely one-sided.
Takam just signed with a new promoter so they have to renegotiate.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 01:08
by Lackeos
It's starting to feel like Usyk's first HW opponent is gonna be named TBA.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 02:04
by SportsRatings
Is there anyone else who just wants him to fight a decent, not great HW, so he has actually fought a true pro bout against a HW?

Then for fight #2, someone like Hunter or Takam, sure.

Then for fight #3, a full-fledged top 15 or top 10.

Otherwise, if he fights a top ten first, how long will it be before he can arrange another fight? A full year? more?

I'd rather see him active and fighting a lot of top 30 guys than waiting around years to get a crack at the top 5.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 05:01
by Onetimeonly
SportsRatings wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 02:04 Is there anyone else who just wants him to fight a decent, not great HW, so he has actually fought a true pro bout against a HW?

Then for fight #2, someone like Hunter or Takam, sure.

Then for fight #3, a full-fledged top 15 or top 10.

Otherwise, if he fights a top ten first, how long will it be before he can arrange another fight? A full year? more?

I'd rather see him active and fighting a lot of top 30 guys than waiting around years to get a crack at the top 5.
He won't be waiting years whomever he fights, he'll be the wbo mandatory

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 05:22
by gilgamesh
For his Heavyweight debut I don't care much who he fights. Given his career trajectory, and how little time he wasted becoming the Undisputed Kingpin at Cruiserweight I can't imagine he's gonna frittering his thumbs too long as a Heavyweight either. He'll be in the big fights sooner than later. Within 3 or 4 fights he'll be fighting a big name Heavyweight. Possibly within 2.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 10:23
by jujigatame
SportsRatings wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 02:04 Is there anyone else who just wants him to fight a decent, not great HW, so he has actually fought a true pro bout against a HW?

Then for fight #2, someone like Hunter or Takam, sure.

Then for fight #3, a full-fledged top 15 or top 10.

Otherwise, if he fights a top ten first, how long will it be before he can arrange another fight? A full year? more?

I'd rather see him active and fighting a lot of top 30 guys than waiting around years to get a crack at the top 5.
Too much time wasted. Most of those fights would be total mismatches.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 10:44
by jewboypgh
is he at cruiser or heavy these days?

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 13:38
by Ilya Muromets
jujigatame wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 10:23
SportsRatings wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 02:04 Is there anyone else who just wants him to fight a decent, not great HW, so he has actually fought a true pro bout against a HW?

Then for fight #2, someone like Hunter or Takam, sure.

Then for fight #3, a full-fledged top 15 or top 10.

Otherwise, if he fights a top ten first, how long will it be before he can arrange another fight? A full year? more?

I'd rather see him active and fighting a lot of top 30 guys than waiting around years to get a crack at the top 5.
Too much time wasted. Most of those fights would be total mismatches.


Agreed. It appears that he wants one little showcase fight as a heavy and then go right for the top.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 13:42
by littlepug
How times change, Holyfield had six fights at heavyweight before challenging for the title !

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 13:52
by Ilya Muromets
littlepug wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 13:42 How times change, Holyfield had six fights at heavyweight before challenging for the title !


Well here Wallin is getting his shot at the "lineal title" without ever even fighting any opponent ranked as high as #200!

What if Wallin wins!? Talk about cherry picking gone wrong!

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 13:54
by dagilechia
jewboypgh wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 10:44 is he at cruiser or heavy these days?
HW but he Still didn't made his debut there. He had to fight Takam in May but it was postponed due to Usyk's injury. Can't wait to see his HW run, Fury vs Usyk would be a fantastic fight skill wise.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 14:03
by sturm vogel
jujigatame wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 18:40 Is it no longer Takam? That was a pointless fight anyway. Hell, any fight against anyone outside the top 5 is pointless. Usyk vs. any non-elite HW will be completely one-sided.
It is not pointless to fight adjustment fights when moving up a division. That is how it is most wisely done. And we spectators enjoy watching them.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 14:05
by dagilechia
Yeah i liked the Takam fight too. The replacement opponent will be most likely worse than him.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 14:06
by oogiebe
sturm vogel wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 14:03
jujigatame wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 18:40 Is it no longer Takam? That was a pointless fight anyway. Hell, any fight against anyone outside the top 5 is pointless. Usyk vs. any non-elite HW will be completely one-sided.
It is not pointless to fight adjustment fights when moving up a division. That is how it is most wisely done. And we spectators enjoy watching them.
Considering Usyk's injury, I wouldn't expect his first foray against tough competition and that's just fine.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 14:29
by jujigatame
sturm vogel wrote: 17 Aug 2019, 14:03
jujigatame wrote: 16 Aug 2019, 18:40 Is it no longer Takam? That was a pointless fight anyway. Hell, any fight against anyone outside the top 5 is pointless. Usyk vs. any non-elite HW will be completely one-sided.
It is not pointless to fight adjustment fights when moving up a division. That is how it is most wisely done. And we spectators enjoy watching them.
For a guy of Usyk's caliber, someone like Povetkin would be a fine "adjustment" fight. Someone like Takam is just a waste of time.

Re: Usyk vs ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2019, 16:04
by ironbeard
Feed him Kow.