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Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 18:39
by DrDuke
Who would you pick in a bout of the two great boxers of this weight? And how?

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 18:43
by gilgamesh
Andre W12

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 18:50
by DrDuke
Toney is pretty overrated. I actually was overrating him myself. Well, his performance against Barkley was stellar. But he had a bunch of close and disputed decisions. Ward cleaned up the SMW division, when it was filled with good boxers. Ward had enough tools to outwork and to trick Toney.

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 18:58
by gilgamesh
DrDuke wrote: 04 Sep 2019, 18:50 Toney is pretty overrated. I actually was overrating him myself. Well, his performance against Barkley was stellar. But he had a bunch of close and disputed decisions. Ward cleaned up the SMW division, when it was filled with good boxers. Ward had enough tools to outwork and to trick Toney.
Yeah, I hate Andre Ward, and James is one of my all time favorite fighters, but I just can't see James winning this match.

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 22:10
by Woldemar
Ward UD 12 (8-4)

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 04 Sep 2019, 22:24
by Evander
Very close.
At 168 prime I'd take Toney by decision.

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 11:43
by Nile4000
Ward by close UD.

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 19:55
by goose 5
I like Toney by decision.

Re: Super Middleweights: Andre Ward vs James Toney

Posted: 24 Jan 2021, 01:28
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Toney is world class, atg counter puncher

But he was lazy and could be outworked in particular with a left hook

However the only time toney was dominated (until he was old and shot) was against rjj and that was due to foot speed

Ward never fought a great counterpuncher i can recall. Froch, kessler, kovalev are all come forward. Dawson could counter but not at toneys level

I think toney sd