RonnyJ wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 01:36
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Oct 2019, 00:57
Reasonable fighters, PAC over Floyd isn't reasonable to me. My top 5 is Greb, Langford, Robinson, Armstrong and Charles.
floyd has
50 fights, pac has
71 fights.
floyd moved up
~4 weight classes, pac moved up
~10 weight classes.
floyd has always been known to avoid dangerous prime boxer, such as prime margarito, prime williams, prime pacquiao, he also wanted to have nothing to do with thurman or spence later in his career and chosed easy fights against b level like berto or z level like mcgregor. what did pac do later in his career, fights dangerous punchers like matthyse or thurman.
manny while being in his prime said 1000 times I WANT FLOYD, what did floyd say at the same time while being in his prime?
1 blood test
2 he needs to leave top rank
3 he needs to be on TMT
4 he needs to take less money/ no 50% 50%
5 asians are known to take substances
excuse after excuse and waiting 6 years, he was just scared to lose his 0 against a prime pacquiao, because he knew pac has the best stamina ever and high punch vol would have him cost him many rounds.
you can say pac lost some, but floyd lost also (castillo, maidana and pacquiao were draw or lose fights)
Let's evaluate Floyd Mayweather Jr's career shall we?
• Possesses an unblemished 50-0 professional record, with 27 KO’s
• Competed in 29 world title fights (if we include the lineal championship as well)
• Has gained world titles in five weight divisions (super featherweight, lightweight, light welterweight, welterweight & light middleweight)
• Has won twelve world title belts from the big four governing bodies
• Has consistently been ranked amongst the top ten pound-for-pound Ring Magazine rankings during his career
• Was the Ring Magazine’s fighter of the year in 1998 & 2007
• 24 of his victories have come against 22 former world champions
• Floyd achieved a 17-fight winning streak against former world champions when he defeated Andre Berto, a run which commenced a decade prior (against Arturo Gatti [25/06/2005])
• Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been a professional boxer for two decades
• Money May won his first world title 16½ years by defeating Genaro Hernandez (a man who had competed in 15 world title bouts, had only previously been defeated by Oscar De La Hoya [in a weight class that was not his natural habitat] and who also boasted a victory against an all-time-great [Azumah Nelson])
• Ring Magazine rates Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 12th position of its pound-for-pound “Best-of-Modern Times” list (based on the votes of 20 boxing experts to determine the Top 20 fighters since World War II)
• Based on the aggregated totals of all fights on his resume, the average Floyd Mayweather Jr. opponent lands a mere 16% of punches thrown, this is the lowest collective figure recorded in CompuBox's 4,000-fight database (as of May 2014)
• Mayweather had the best plus/minus rating of any fighter (as of September 2014), which is a measure of the variance between Floyd’s own connect rate and that of his opponents’ (in other words, a gauge of the “Hit and don't get hit” old adage)
• BoxRec considers Floyd Mayweather Jr. the greatest of all time
In terms of Floyd Mayweather Jr’s final sixteen opponents of his career:
• Five were top-ten ranked pound-for-pounders at the time he faced them (Juan Manuel Marquez, Ricky Hatton, Shane Mosley; Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao)
• Five are dead-cert first ballot Hall-of-Famers (Juan Manuel Marquez, Oscar De La Hoya, Shane Mosley; Miguel Cotto and Manny Pacquiao)
• Fifteen opponents were world champions during their careers
• Two are currently ranked in the top-ten pound-for-pound list and are also current world title holders (Canelo Alvarez and Manny Pacquiao)
• Ten held world titles in multiple weight divisions (Zab Judah; Juan Manuel Marquez; Ricky Hatton; Oscar De La Hoya; Manny Pacquiao; Marcos Maidana; Saul Alvarez; Robert Guerrero; Miguel Cotto; and Shane Mosley)
At least twelve of the fighters Floyd Mayweather Jr. faced were fighters that became Hall-of-Fame inductees or at least good enough to be included in the nominees listed in the annual IBHoF voting ballot:
• Arturo Gatti
• Oscar De La Hoya
• Juan Manuel Márquez
• Canelo
• Manny Pacquiao
• Genaro Hernández
• Jose Luis Castillo
• Diego Corrales
• Ricky Hatton
• Shane Mosley
• Miguel Cotto
• Zab Judah
In terms of your comments about Manny Pacquiao…
He used to pretend that the reason why he wouldn't participate in blood based drug testing was due to his so-called fear of needles, yet he enjoyed getting a load of tattoos.
Manny even rejected a guaranteed opportunity to face Floyd Mayweather Jr., because he didn't want to undergo blood based drug testing.
His performance levels dipped when he finally agreed to undergo blood based PED tests for his bouts. Some say this was merely a coincidence.
