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I'm disappointed. If a fighter with such a great physique runs to not get T/KO'd by a chubby fighter with short hands then that's comical. Andy wanted a fight but Joshua just wanted those belts.

apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:34 I'm disappointed. If a fighter with such a great physique runs to not get T/KO'd by a chubby fighter with short hands then that's comical. Andy wanted a fight but Joshua just wanted those belts.

If Ruiz didn't come in like a fat pig, he would have had a choice.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:38

apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:34 I'm disappointed. If a fighter with such a great physique runs to not get T/KO'd by a chubby fighter with short hands then that's comical. Andy wanted a fight but Joshua just wanted those belts.

If Ruiz didn't come in like a fat pig, he would have had a choice.

Probably. Anyway he made good money.

That has actually been Joshua's best performance.

He won and set himself up for another huge payday or two.

apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:49

Tony1244 wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:38

If Ruiz didn't come in like a fat pig, he would have had a choice.

Probably. Anyway he made good money.

Buster Douglas on a talk show basically said he doesn't want to be super wealthy or super famous, he put enough money away to not have to work, he enjoys his couch and TV.

Joshua fought the perfect fight.

Ruiz might be a fat blob, but he can actually fight (when he puts in the effort) and he can take a punch too.

Joshua underestimated him the first time around and he was never going to do that again.

Give him credit for proving that he can fight more than one way.

Tbh Andy is still the BIG WINNER. He made history by becoming the first mexican HW champion. He whooped AJ in the first match. He showed that boxing is more about skills and heart than looking like a greek god sculpture. And most of all is that Andy proved that he's a far more dangerous player in the HW division than Joshua.

Now Joshua is gonna fight ultra defensive and careful knowing that his weaknesses were exposed by a chubby-short handed opponent. AJ's future opponents would salivate.

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:49 That has actually been Joshua's best performance.

Exactly. He did what most thought he couldn't by sticking and moving for 12 straight rounds.
He did a great job.
But it was boring to watch

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:49 That has actually been Joshua's best performance.

Exactly

apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 11:02 Tbh Andy is still the BIG WINNER. He made history by becoming the first mexican HW champion. He whooped AJ. He showed that boxing is more about skills and heart than looking like a greek god sculpture. And most of all is that Andy proved that he's a far more dangerous player in the HW division that Joshua.

Now Joshua is gonna fight ultra defensive and careful knowing that his weaknesses were exposed by a chubby-short handed opponent. AJ's future opponents would salivate.

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:49 That has actually been Joshua's best performance.

If fighting very cautious to not get T/K.O'ed by a short-chubby opponent is Joshua's best performance then it was a poor day for boxing and the HW division.

He stuck and moved for 12 rounds. He was a guy whose stamina was always questioned

Look he totally adjusted his fighting style to beat an opponent. That is impressive.

It wasnt thrilling but it was effective. The 1st fight showed ruiz only had a chance if you traded with him so he took that away. Smart.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 11:43 He stuck and moved for 12 rounds. He was a guy whose stamina was always questioned

Look he totally adjusted his fighting style to beat an opponent. That is impressive.

It wasnt thrilling but it was effective. The 1st fight showed ruiz only had a chance if you traded with him so he took that away. Smart.

Yes very smart

It was effective against overweight short opponent. Wilder will stop AJ.

apollo creed wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 10:34 Andy wanted a fight but Joshua just wanted those belts.

Winning is actually the entire point of modern sports...

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:18 It was effective against overweight short opponent. Wilder will stop AJ.

wilder should fight some decent opponents to prove he deserves a shot vs AJ , his resume is shockingly bad .

stevec@france wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:51

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:18 It was effective against overweight short opponent. Wilder will stop AJ.

wilder should fight some decent opponents to prove he deserves a shot vs AJ , his resume is shockingly bad .

That's what boxers' teams say when they are scared of somebody.

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:52

stevec@france wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:51

wilder should fight some decent opponents to prove he deserves a shot vs AJ , his resume is shockingly bad .

That's what boxers' teams say when they are scared of somebody.

the facts speak for themselves - you should read em and weep ...
Wilders rise to the top has been as a "protege "

Has he got a huge power shot ? yes
Can he box ? a little
He is a superb athlete we know .
But lets be honest here - 2 fighters in Fury and Ortiz are the only decent opponents in his entire career

stevec@france wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:51

boxing_rocks wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:18 It was effective against overweight short opponent. Wilder will stop AJ.

wilder should fight some decent opponents to prove he deserves a shot vs AJ , his resume is shockingly bad .

He has the 2nd best resume of current heavyweights.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 13:06

stevec@france wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 12:51

wilder should fight some decent opponents to prove he deserves a shot vs AJ , his resume is shockingly bad .

He has the 2nd best resume of current heavyweights.

Who has the best? Mr AJ

Resumes don't fight in the ring.

Duh, did you spend all day coming up with that blindingly obvious gem?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Dec 2019, 13:16 Duh, did you spend all day coming up with that blindingly obvious gem?

Because dummies keep talking about resumes when trying to prove that one fighter is better than the other.

Ya, though in many cases a fighter is both better and has the better resume, like Canelo over GGG