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Wilders best opponent before fighting Fury was a 37 year old Luis Ortiz..

Fury and Wilder no where near great fighters like

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield...to name a few..


Fury best win was over an ancient 38 or year old Klitschko..

Muhammad ALI was champ of the world when Luis Ortiz was 37 years old

Muhammed Ali was past his prime at 37..

victor-romeo wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 16:58 Wilders best opponent before fighting Fury was a 37 year old Luis Ortiz..

Fury and Wilder no where near great fighters like

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield...to name a few..


Fury best win was over an ancient 38 or year old Klitschko..

I don't think anybody was calling either of them the best that ever lived or anything right now anyway. Don't see why you felt the need to make this thread.

Everybody else that Wilder fought got knocked out by him so Fury's win is pretty impressive however you wanna slice it.

Let's not start playing down his victory straight away.

The bottom line is that Fury beat a man who many people agree is one of the hardest punchers of all time.

Also, he did so in a fashion few people thought he was capable of.

Out boxing the puncher is one thing, but to punch with the puncher and come out on top? That is worthy of praise, regardless of how highly (or lowly) you rate Wilder's boxing ability or record.

victor-romeo wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 16:58 Put it in perspective, Fury beat a man who's best opponent before they fought was 37 year old Luis Ortiz.

Wilders best opponent before fighting Fury was a 37 year old Luis Ortiz..

Fury and Wilder no where near great fighters like

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield...to name a few..


Fury best win was over an ancient 38 or year old Klitschko..

I’ll let you argue with yourself.

victor-romeo wrote: ↑21 Dec 2019, 14:54
My current not what they can do or were but now pound for pound USA pound for pound list

#1=Crawford

#2=Jacobs

#3=Porter

#4=Danny Garcia

#5=Wilder

#6=Mikey Garcia

#7=Tank Davis

#8=Jose Carlos Ramirez

#9=Andy Ruiz

#10=Maurice Hooker

Errol Spence off list because not sure when he will fight again.

victor-romeo wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 16:37 right just an accident that fury 6'7, wilder and joshua are huge guys..and are the three best heavyweights..

victor-romeo wrote: ↑06 Jul 2019, 15:15 1-Fury

2-Wilder

3-Ruiz

4-Parker

5-Whyte

6-Joshua

End of thread!

I admit being more of a Wilder fan than Fury, mainly because Fury is a pathetic piece of shit based on what he says publicly. That said, Fury's win should not be downplayed/denigrated by Wilder's competition. He did great, won without question, and deserves full credit.

Ortiz is at least 47

victor-romeo wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 16:58 Wilders best opponent before fighting Fury was a 37 year old Luis Ortiz..

Fury and Wilder no where near great fighters like

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield...to name a few..


Fury best win was over an ancient 38 or year old Klitschko..

Something tells me you think you could have done better.

Same old tune: once someone finally beats him he was no good anyway blah blah blah homeless homie

Ortiz had too safe and easy career to be finished even by this age, so he wasn't. He still can beat a lot of competitors.

Wilder has gone from 'hardest one-punch hitter in heavyweight history' to 'one dimensional, overrated bum' in 12 hours.

Tuth is, he's neither of thos things, but that shouldn't detract from Fury's win.

matthewcb wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 09:40 Wilder has gone from 'hardest one-punch hitter in heavyweight history' to 'one dimensional, overrated bum' in 12 hours.

Tuth is, he's neither of thos things, but that shouldn't detract from Fury's win.

Agreed. Wilder still KTFO 99% of HWs

matthewcb wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 09:40 Wilder has gone from 'hardest one-punch hitter in heavyweight history' to 'one dimensional, overrated bum' in 12 hours.

Tuth is, he's neither of thos things, but that shouldn't detract from Fury's win.

Spot on.

Same thing happened with Ortiz: He was the HW bogeyman and potential uncrowned HW champion, as soon as Wilder downs him, he's a fat 52 year old with high blood pressure.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 11:09

matthewcb wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 09:40 Wilder has gone from 'hardest one-punch hitter in heavyweight history' to 'one dimensional, overrated bum' in 12 hours.

Tuth is, he's neither of thos things, but that shouldn't detract from Fury's win.

Spot on.

Same thing happened with Ortiz: He was the HW bogeyman and potential uncrowned HW champion, as soon as Wilder downs him, he's a fat 52 year old with high blood pressure.

The Ortiz downgrading happened during his Allen and Scott fights, you can check the RBR threads and the threads from after those fights if you don't believe me. He lost his boogyman status before the Wilder fight was made. You can't be the division's boogyman and yet look like he did vs Malik 'gone with the wind' Scott

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 13:57

Syntax Error wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 11:09

Spot on.

Same thing happened with Ortiz: He was the HW bogeyman and potential uncrowned HW champion, as soon as Wilder downs him, he's a fat 52 year old with high blood pressure.

The Ortiz downgrading happened during his Allen and Scott fights, you can check the RBR threads and the threads from after those fights if you don't believe me. He lost his boogyman status before the Wilder fight was made. You can't be the division's boogyman and yet look like he did vs Malik 'gone with the wind' Scott

Ah, OK, fair point.

I have never looked at an RBR threads from what I can remember.

sturm vogel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 22:31 Same old tune: once someone finally beats him he was no good anyway blah blah blah homeless homie

You nailed it
Give Fury credit for what 40 plus other men could not do

GREAT win for FURY---FURY is 9-5 to beat AJ & 2-1 to beat USYK on oddschecker today. the marketplace is saying FURY is the best HWT in the world right now. let's give credit where credit is due !

Bull! Wilder is the same fighter he was before this fight. Fury was a very different fighter. He brought brute force strength and melded it together with his herky jerky slippery quick skill set. All kudos to Tyson Fury here.

dickbelden wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 17:55 GREAT win for FURY---FURY is 9-5 to beat AJ & 2-1 to beat USYK on oddschecker today. the marketplace is saying FURY is the best HWT in the world right now. let's give credit where credit is due !

Imagine actually using betting odds to decide things like this.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑24 Feb 2020, 17:20

sturm vogel wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 22:31 Same old tune: once someone finally beats him he was no good anyway blah blah blah homeless homie

You nailed it
Give Fury credit for what 40 plus other men could not do

victor-romeo wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 16:58 Wilders best opponent before fighting Fury was a 37 year old Luis Ortiz..

Fury and Wilder no where near great fighters like

Lennox Lewis, Larry Holmes, Mike Tyson, and Evander Holyfield...to name a few..


Fury best win was over an ancient 38 or year old Klitschko..

correct on both counts - said it myself numerous times in relation to DW / TF fighting AJ