Danny Williams' shoulder

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 03 Jan 2005, 09:57

We were in his suite the day after the fight and I remember him complaining how sore his shoulder was. I didn't pay much notice to it, now it turns out there may be a problem again and he's now having another scan!

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 03 Jan 2005, 15:00

are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 03 Jan 2005, 15:05

are you his boyfriend or what?

Are you insinuating Danny Williams is gay?

Maddawg · Post by **Maddawg** » 03 Jan 2005, 15:18

BubiScholz wrote:are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?

Wow!!!!!!!!! You must be a popular guy with great replies like that

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 03 Jan 2005, 16:16

He isn't.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 03 Jan 2005, 18:44

BubiScholz wrote:are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?

What's your fornicating problem? It was just an observation, seeing as this story broke yesterday and it sprang to mind what he said that Sunday morning. You don't like it, then fornicate off.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 03 Jan 2005, 19:05

BubiScholz wrote:are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?

BubiScholz, what kind of post is that, this is supposed to be a boxing site.
not somewhere that you can insult other people all the time. What purpose does that serve, i was wondering if you just do it, to get off on some sort of strange thrill.

i'm trying to think of what word to sum you up..... i know......TWAT

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 03 Jan 2005, 19:10

Williams is becoming king of the excuses. Shoulder against Klitschko, Shingles against Sam - come on!

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 03 Jan 2005, 20:01

007 wrote:Williams is becoming king of the excuses. Shoulder against Klitschko, Shingles against Sam - come on!

OK, that's a boxing opinion. That's the point of this forum. Not to go slagging the likes of me off. I didn't do anything wrong.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 03 Jan 2005, 20:06

Boxingmad wrote:
007 wrote:Williams is becoming king of the excuses. Shoulder against Klitschko, Shingles against Sam - come on!
OK, that's a boxing opinion. That's the point of this forum. Not to go slagging the likes of me off. I didn't do anything wrong.

Where have I slagged you off? Get a grip.

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 03 Jan 2005, 21:00

007 wrote:
Boxingmad wrote:
007 wrote:Williams is becoming king of the excuses. Shoulder against Klitschko, Shingles against Sam - come on!
OK, that's a boxing opinion. That's the point of this forum. Not to go slagging the likes of me off. I didn't do anything wrong.
Where have I slagged you off? Get a grip.

He was talking about Bubi not you

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 04 Jan 2005, 04:43

Smit wrote:
007 wrote:
Boxingmad wrote: OK, that's a boxing opinion. That's the point of this forum. Not to go slagging the likes of me off. I didn't do anything wrong.
Where have I slagged you off? Get a grip.
He was talking about Bubi not you

Correct.

Sorry, 007 if it sounded that way.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 04 Jan 2005, 13:25

Sorry you were quoting my post above the comment!

BubiScholz · Post by **BubiScholz** » 04 Jan 2005, 14:51

Boxingmad wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?
What's your fornicating problem? It was just an observation, seeing as this story broke yesterday and it sprang to mind what he said that Sunday morning. You don't like it, then fornicate off.

hey mate, i was just joking!! take it easy!! sorry if i went to far.

i know that Danny is married.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 04 Jan 2005, 14:53

007 wrote:Sorry you were quoting my post above the comment!

No probs. I see what you're saying though; there's always an excuse. However, this time I'm genuinely concerned. I had a text from him in Dubai where he is on holiday. He says that his holiday has been dampened by a)being still very upset about losing to Klitschko - a fight he fully expected to win and b)the fact that every time he stretches or picks up his small children he experiences pain in his shoulder. The results are expected tomorrow and I'm praying that this is just a bit of soreness taking its time to heal.

It would be a shame bcuz speaking as a fan and not a mate of his, he is our best chance of winning back a genuine version of the heavyweight crown (assuming Lennox doesn't make a comeback). I don't really think Harrison has what it takes (he doesn't have the stomach for a tough fight) Skelton maybe, but very very raw at the moment.
Danny shouldn't have been that heavy in the first place. Lighter on his feet, he could have easily avoided the swings and clubbing shots of Ironfist and got in close, released some deadly combos and made him suffer. As it was, he was a sitting target for him and thus got damaged on his eye making it impossible to do anything else.

As for a plan B - well at 19 stone any other back-up plan is rendered useless, especially with 1 eye.

However, Jimmy Mac has done a sterling job with Danny, and his thinking for the fight differs from mine. This is meant as no criticism of him whatsoever.

Let's hope that things go well for him.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 04 Jan 2005, 15:25

Danny's a strong guy his shoulder will heal soon.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 04 Jan 2005, 15:43

But will his ego?

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 04 Jan 2005, 16:37

BubiScholz wrote:
Boxingmad wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:are you his boyfriend or what? who cares?
What's your fornicating problem? It was just an observation, seeing as this story broke yesterday and it sprang to mind what he said that Sunday morning. You don't like it, then fornicate off.
hey mate, i was just joking!! take it easy!! sorry if i went to far. i know that Danny is married.

I appreciate the apology. Sorry about my colourful language. It's frustrating for me, because I know that the guy can do so much better. The times I've watched him in the gym, I just can't believe what he can do, and I think you'd be impressed too. I just don't know why on earth he can't reproduce it in the ring. The Klitschko fight was another example of it.
I'm p****d because when I went over to watch the fight, I had to stay in a crumby youth hostel right on the other side of town, and get the bus up to the Mandalay Bay hotel every time. As nearly all of the fight fraternity were there, and Danny's family were next door in the Luxor, that's where I spent all my time. So you can probably imagine how I felt sitting there for eight rounds watching him get beat up like that without Danny offering any kind of sustained reply. It was just single left hooks all the time, without any head movement.

What heart though. Gutsiest fighter I've ever seen, or one of.

He's taking this loss badly. Still very upset. He feels he's let everyone down.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 04 Jan 2005, 16:41

Boxingmad wrote:
007 wrote:Sorry you were quoting my post above the comment!
No probs. I see what you're saying though; there's always an excuse. However, this time I'm genuinely concerned. I had a text from him in Dubai where he is on holiday. He says that his holiday has been dampened by a)being still very upset about losing to Klitschko - a fight he fully expected to win and b)the fact that every time he stretches or picks up his small children he experiences pain in his shoulder. The results are expected tomorrow and I'm praying that this is just a bit of soreness taking its time to heal.

It would be a shame bcuz speaking as a fan and not a mate of his, he is our best chance of winning back a genuine version of the heavyweight crown (assuming Lennox doesn't make a comeback). I don't really think Harrison has what it takes (he doesn't have the stomach for a tough fight) Skelton maybe, but very very raw at the moment.
Danny shouldn't have been that heavy in the first place. Lighter on his feet, he could have easily avoided the swings and clubbing shots of Ironfist and got in close, released some deadly combos and made him suffer. As it was, he was a sitting target for him and thus got damaged on his eye making it impossible to do anything else.

As for a plan B - well at 19 stone any other back-up plan is rendered useless, especially with 1 eye.

However, Jimmy Mac has done a sterling job with Danny, and his thinking for the fight differs from mine. This is meant as no criticism of him whatsoever.

Let's hope that things go well for him.

I understand you're a fan of his but in all honesty I dont think he's as good as you think or other people have made out. I really dont think he'd beat any of the belt holders bar perhaps Brewster and I doubt he'd beat many if any of a genuine heavyweight top ten.

He was only 'world' rated on the back of his win over Tyson who has very 'little left. Talk that Tyson was 'the old Tyson' for 2 rounds against Williams is absolute rubbish. If the Tyson of old had caught Danny flush with the same uppercut he landed in the first round he'd have been knocked out cold.

He could definitely have done better against Klitschko with less weight and more speed but still dont think he would have won.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 04 Jan 2005, 16:51

Who was the other fella in Danny’s corner screaming advice?
Jimmy Mac is his trainer yet seemed not bothered in the least about the fella shouting things in Danny’s other ear.

Boxingmad pass my best onto Danny.