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15 rounds, who wins?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 21:15

I mean it's not an outlandish matchup. Dokes did give Holyfield a hell of a fight at Heavyweight.

I'd pick Qawi to win a UD or stop Dokes late.

Jeremy Williams vs Wilder was a hell of a lot more ridiculous.

I'd go Dokes, Qawi wasn't the same at HW

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 21:55

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 21:15

I mean it's not an outlandish matchup. Dokes did give Holyfield a hell of a fight at Heavyweight.

I'd pick Qawi to win a UD or stop Dokes late.

Jeremy Williams vs Wilder was a hell of a lot more ridiculous.

Dokes was a long established HW with some of the fastest hands in hw history, he won a title and fought some good opponents, if anyone's involvment is out of place it's Qawi's since he did nothing of note at HW except get a beatdown from George

both Holy fights were at cruiser

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:06

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 21:55

I mean it's not an outlandish matchup. Dokes did give Holyfield a hell of a fight at Heavyweight.

I'd pick Qawi to win a UD or stop Dokes late.

Jeremy Williams vs Wilder was a hell of a lot more ridiculous.

Dokes was a long established HW with some of the fastest hands in hw history, he won a title and fought some good opponents, if anyone's involvment is out of place it's Qawi's since he did nothing of note at HW except get a beatdown from George

both Holy fights were at cruiser

Pretty sure he was being sarcastic. The George fight wasn't a beat down.

I didn't, but maybe

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:11 I didn't, but maybe

If not, he's wrong.

I thought they were pitching the fight as a Cruiserweight bout. If it's a Heavyweight bout yeah I'd take Dokes.

I know Dokes never competed as a Cruiserweight, but he was a very small Heavyweight who could've conceivably made the weight. Especially by the modern standard where the weight limit has been raised to 200.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:06

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 21:55

I mean it's not an outlandish matchup. Dokes did give Holyfield a hell of a fight at Heavyweight.

I'd pick Qawi to win a UD or stop Dokes late.

Jeremy Williams vs Wilder was a hell of a lot more ridiculous.

Dokes was a long established HW with some of the fastest hands in hw history, he won a title and fought some good opponents, if anyone's involvment is out of place it's Qawi's since he did nothing of note at HW except get a beatdown from George

both Holy fights were at cruiser

I thought Holyfield vs Qawi 2 was at Heavyweight?

No, though tbf you said Dokes vs Holy was a HW fight, I had a reading blooper and thought you said Qawi

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:30

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:06

Dokes was a long established HW with some of the fastest hands in hw history, he won a title and fought some good opponents, if anyone's involvment is out of place it's Qawi's since he did nothing of note at HW except get a beatdown from George

both Holy fights were at cruiser

I thought Holyfield vs Qawi 2 was at Heavyweight?

No, dokes wasn't small. He was probably close to 250 for holyfield. When he was younger in the 215 range. To the best of my recollection, foreman was qawis only fight at heavy.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:32 No, though tbf you said Dokes vs Holy was a HW fight, I had a reading blooper and thought you said Qawi

I gotta brush up on Holyfield as a Cruiserweight.

I have the Holyfield vs Dokes fight in my collection. Great fight.

Dokes was solid until drugs destroyed him

At hw he takes it

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:34

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:30

I thought Holyfield vs Qawi 2 was at Heavyweight?

No, dokes wasn't small. He was probably close to 250 for holyfield. When he was younger in the 215 range. To the best of my recollection, foreman was qawis only fight at heavy.

He was in his first dozen or so fights.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:36 Dokes was solid until drugs destroyed him

At hw he takes it

Ocasio whipped his ass coming up, got robbed in pr.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:36

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:34

No, dokes wasn't small. He was probably close to 250 for holyfield. When he was younger in the 215 range. To the best of my recollection, foreman was qawis only fight at heavy.

He was in his first dozen or so fights.

Lol, so he's fighting qawi in his pro debut?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:37

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:36

He was in his first dozen or so fights.

Lol, so he's fighting qawi in his pro debut?

Certainly not. Just got mixed up on his stature. Honestly outside of the Holyfield fight I don't know a hell of a lot about Dokes.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:38

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:37

Lol, so he's fighting qawi in his pro debut?

Certainly not. Just got mixed up on his stature. Honestly outside of the Holyfield fight I don't know a hell of a lot about Dokes.

He was too big for qawi, especially since he was faster too.

Dokes by TKO 10

Quawi wasn't much impressive at the HWs. Of course, he isn't of the HW size, but also he moved up too late. Anyway, Dokes had not only the size advantage, he was a solid boxer. Dokes would deal with Qawi, possibly stopping him.

Woldemar wrote: ↑01 May 2020, 01:48 Dokes by TKO 10

Michael "Dynamite" Dokes by TKO 8

gilgamesh wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:38

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑30 Apr 2020, 22:37

Lol, so he's fighting qawi in his pro debut?

Certainly not. Just got mixed up on his stature. Honestly outside of the Holyfield fight I don't know a hell of a lot about Dokes.

Williams vs Wilder not sooo far fetched
But Holyfield was a Lion at Cruiserweight.The 1st Qawi fight was awesome.
Dokes was a guy that the books all hyped but i never was really impressed.He mugged Mike Weaver in the 1st fight and the referee stopped it quickly.2nd fight was a 15 rd draw I thought Weaver won.
But I think Qawi would be too small to beat Dokes.Too much size to overcome.
Qawi was a great fighter though.