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Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 05:15
by lazboy
Reel them off but know this! Toney didn’t even start boxing until after his teenage years. Clearly a natural athlete. Unheard of. What a star.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 05:19
by lazboy
No EO emotional posts please.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 05:21
by lazboy
Leonard thought w Benitez had the best he fought, old el radar. Sorry guys I’m on the drink.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 16:51
by oogiebe
Ali.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 18:04
by Syntax Error
Pernell Whitaker.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 18:10
by margaret thatcher
Toney says he started boxing at 10 because he was always street fighting

Who is that Argentinian guy who had unreal defensne

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 18:15
by Syntax Error
margaret thatcher wrote: 08 May 2020, 18:10 Toney says he started boxing at 10 because he was always street fighting

Who is that Argentinian guy who had unreal defensne
Locche.

That's a good shout; he does tend to get forgotten, but he really had a phenomenal defence.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 18:44
by lazboy
Dam I was under the impression Toney started boxing later in life. 10s still relatively young.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 08 May 2020, 18:59
by margaret thatcher
I think he quit boxing for a while in his teenage years and then came back to it, hence why so few amateur fights (around 30) despite starting at 10

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 09 May 2020, 07:37
by Bandog
Floyd, Sweet Pea, Ali

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 03:41
by Verdi
RJJ

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 06:16
by lazboy
Verdi wrote: 12 May 2020, 03:41RJJ
Yea I’m not convinced. I thought he was more fleet footed than slippery on the inside. I know there was that one clip of Jones with his hands behind his back and no doubt he had good head movement, I just don’t think it was exceptional like Toney and others mentioned,

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 06:34
by Counter-puncher
lazboy wrote: 08 May 2020, 05:19 No EO emotional posts please.

'who had better head movement? is there a database i can consult here? need FACTS, need FACTS'

'head movement: does not compute. system failure'

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 06:46
by lazboy
Counter-puncher wrote: 12 May 2020, 06:34
lazboy wrote: 08 May 2020, 05:19 No EO emotional posts please.

'who had better head movement? is there a database i can consult here? need FACTS, need FACTS'

'head movement: does not compute. system failure'
:lol: :lol:

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 09:20
by Yuzo
what about henry hank?

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 12:34
by Lswicho2
Nicolo locche is the best defensive head movement in the game till this day. Argentinean from the 1970's go back to YouTube and watch his footage

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 12 May 2020, 12:47
by Teddy's Toupee
Mike McCallum was very sound defensively, as was Roberto Duran. Dwight Qawi also had very good head movement.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 13 May 2020, 09:17
by Romi
Willie Pep certainly at or near top of the list, Duran was exceptional as well, SRR and SRL of course, prime Rigo, and honorable mention to Chris Byrd who was always fighting guys much bigger but more than held his own due to his cat like defense. Toney was about as natural as they get. Very tough to get in a clean shot even when he was out of shape. He beat a tough Iran Barkley with ease. Holy said Toney was the most complete fighter he ever fought.

Re: Who had better head movement than James Toney?

Posted: 16 May 2020, 10:03
by 6 Pack
Willie Pep is #1 all time. Legend has it he won a round without landing a punch cuz put on an amazing head movement/foot work display.

Dwight Qawi was great at head movement. Same with Joe Frazier.

Ali and Roy Jones had great head movement, but even better footwork.

Wilfred Benitez. Sweet Pea. A young Mike Tyson (head movement diminished later in his career tho). Sugar Ray (both).