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Goofiest styles

Posted: 03 Jun 2020, 23:59
by margaret thatcher
What good fighters had the goofiest styles. Kinda similar to the more effective than they look, but not quite the same.


I've been watching some Gio Rossi lately, 2x world champ. Man did he look like a goof when he boxed, so herky jerky and slappy but he was pretty successful with it

I always thought Mike Spinks had a touch of goof to the way he moved

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 07:30
by Wee Tommy
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 23:59 What good fighters had the goofiest styles. Kinda similar to the more effective than they look, but not quite the same.


I've been watching some Gio Rossi lately, 2x world champ. Man did he look like a goof when he boxed, so herky jerky and slappy but he was pretty successful with it

I always thought Mike Spinks had a touch of goof to the way he moved
Good shout on both.

Remember Carlos Maussa?

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 08:07
by Stuarty
Wee Tommy wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 07:30
margaret thatcher wrote: 03 Jun 2020, 23:59 What good fighters had the goofiest styles. Kinda similar to the more effective than they look, but not quite the same.


I've been watching some Gio Rossi lately, 2x world champ. Man did he look like a goof when he boxed, so herky jerky and slappy but he was pretty successful with it

I always thought Mike Spinks had a touch of goof to the way he moved
Good shout on both.

Remember Carlos Maussa?
Maussa is a good shout. Remember Hatton struggling to figure him out early. Didn't make for great viewing. Remember him hitting Vivian Harris on the deck :lol:

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 16:53
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Edward rackley of course

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 17:18
by oogiebe
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 16:53 Edward rackley of course
One of the worse! LMFAO!

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 17:25
by Cyclops
Stuarty wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 08:07
Wee Tommy wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 07:30

Good shout on both.

Remember Carlos Maussa?
Maussa is a good shout. Remember Hatton struggling to figure him out early. Didn't make for great viewing. Remember him hitting Vivian Harris on the deck :lol:
I remember reading about Hatton struggling with Maussa but not having youtube and stuff then I never saw it. Is it worth a watch?

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 17:27
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Sure nothing better to watch!

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 20:41
by Wee Tommy
Cyclops wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 17:25
Stuarty wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 08:07

Maussa is a good shout. Remember Hatton struggling to figure him out early. Didn't make for great viewing. Remember him hitting Vivian Harris on the deck :lol:
I remember reading about Hatton struggling with Maussa but not having youtube and stuff then I never saw it. Is it worth a watch?
I suppose mate it’s defo one of Hattons ‘declining’ fights.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 04 Jun 2020, 22:57
by slappy
Good question. So much of unorthodox (or goofy) styles are about head movement and angles.

As far as unorthodox styles, most successful may be Naseem Hamed with the funky angles.

Emmanuel Augustus was also all over the ring throwing punches in a lot of weird ways -- but effective.

A guy who exploited an unusual style -- but still a master boxer -- was Saoul Mamby. Good footwork, clean punches, nice head movement but quirky.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 00:25
by Scypion
Chuck Davey?

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 05:33
by Stuarty
Cyclops wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 17:25
Stuarty wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 08:07

Maussa is a good shout. Remember Hatton struggling to figure him out early. Didn't make for great viewing. Remember him hitting Vivian Harris on the deck :lol:
I remember reading about Hatton struggling with Maussa but not having youtube and stuff then I never saw it. Is it worth a watch?
The KO is good but it's pretty crap up until then if i remember correctly mate.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 10:05
by gilgamesh
Wee Tommy wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 20:41
Cyclops wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 17:25
I remember reading about Hatton struggling with Maussa but not having youtube and stuff then I never saw it. Is it worth a watch?
I suppose mate it’s defo one of Hattons ‘declining’ fights.
Hell it was his first title defense after beating Tszyu. He was prime as could be. Maussa was just an awkward guy. Ricky did eventually catch up to him though.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 10:06
by gilgamesh
Even though he's well liked Emanuel Augustus had a goofy style. Intentionally so.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 10:09
by Wee Tommy
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 10:05
Wee Tommy wrote: 04 Jun 2020, 20:41

I suppose mate it’s defo one of Hattons ‘declining’ fights.
Hell it was his first title defense after beating Tszyu. He was prime as could be. Maussa was just an awkward guy. Ricky did eventually catch up to him though.
I know but it was the beginning of his slide, he looked terrible in that fight and done everything wrong. He’s hit the booze and the gear massively after Tszyu.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 05 Jun 2020, 14:27
by Scypion
Scypion wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 00:25Chuck Davey?

BTW, Chuck Davey's ill fated fight with Kid Gavilan is on You Tube.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 11:02
by gilgamesh
Wee Tommy wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 10:09
gilgamesh wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 10:05

Hell it was his first title defense after beating Tszyu. He was prime as could be. Maussa was just an awkward guy. Ricky did eventually catch up to him though.
I know but it was the beginning of his slide, he looked terrible in that fight and done everything wrong. He’s hit the booze and the gear massively after Tszyu.
I mean if he was so undisciplined that he supposedly started going downhill immediately after becoming Champion, he's lucky he ever became one in the first place.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 11:03
by Wee Tommy
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 11:02
Wee Tommy wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 10:09

I know but it was the beginning of his slide, he looked terrible in that fight and done everything wrong. He’s hit the booze and the gear massively after Tszyu.
I mean if he was so undisciplined that he supposedly started going downhill immediately after becoming Champion, he's lucky he ever became one in the first place.
I never thought he’d beat Tszyu and he never performed to that standard again. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 11:25
by gilgamesh
Wee Tommy wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 11:03
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 11:02

I mean if he was so undisciplined that he supposedly started going downhill immediately after becoming Champion, he's lucky he ever became one in the first place.
I never thought he’d beat Tszyu and he never performed to that standard again. 🤷🏻‍♂️
In a way he represented Tszyu's achilles heel as a fighter.

Think about Tszyu's other career loss. It came against Vince Phillips who spent a great deal of that fight, roughing Tszyu up in close, getting inside his power, and pushing him around.

Apparently Tszyu was more comfortable when guys were trying to box and move against him as opposed to get inside and maul him. He needed distance to punch.

Yeah I think we'd all agree he never has another win particularly close to the Tszyu win, but I don't think it's as simple as he started going downhill immediately after the Tszyu fight.

Now perhaps it was a matter of just everything working in his favor for him to pull out an improbable win in the first place. Tszyu's age, the style matchup, etc.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 06 Jun 2020, 12:24
by Wee Tommy
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 11:25
Wee Tommy wrote: 06 Jun 2020, 11:03

I never thought he’d beat Tszyu and he never performed to that standard again. 🤷🏻‍♂️
In a way he represented Tszyu's achilles heel as a fighter.

Think about Tszyu's other career loss. It came against Vince Phillips who spent a great deal of that fight, roughing Tszyu up in close, getting inside his power, and pushing him around.

Apparently Tszyu was more comfortable when guys were trying to box and move against him as opposed to get inside and maul him. He needed distance to punch.

Yeah I think we'd all agree he never has another win particularly close to the Tszyu win, but I don't think it's as simple as he started going downhill immediately after the Tszyu fight.

Now perhaps it was a matter of just everything working in his favor for him to pull out an improbable win in the first place. Tszyu's age, the style matchup, etc.
I’ve personally known a few athletes go quickly down the tubes when they hit the cocaine. I think Hatton could have been so much better without his alcoholism and cocaine use.

I agree about Tszyu tho 👍🏼

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 08 Jun 2020, 15:17
by Bodyshot3
More of footnote really....but the moderately successful British fighter Matt Barney had a deeply peculiar style, it basically involved never, ever taking a step forwards unless "in extremis" and forever skirting the perimeter of the ring.

Horrible fighter to watch, especially as his counter punching was not a thing of beauty or remotely potent.

He was a guy who sort of deliberately wanted to be properly chased all night long and not have a fight.....I think his main strategy was to simply exhaust guys and nab them with just enough clean jabs to pinch rounds.

He was the most passive-aggressive fighter I can recall; must have done miles going from corner-to-corner each fight and the more someone came right at him the happier he was. A little tap whilst sliding away was a major shot for Matt :lol:

He actually went the distance with Froch for the vacant British SMW title and Froch was thoroughly disgusted with the whole experience.....why won't the guy engage even for a moment or do something-anything?

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 09 Jun 2020, 15:27
by Scypion
Scypion wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 14:27
Scypion wrote: 05 Jun 2020, 00:25Chuck Davey?

BTW, Chuck Davey's ill fated fight with Kid Gavilan is on You Tube.
Davey's record going into the Gavilan fight was 37-0-2 including a win over Carmen Basilio and a KO over Ike Williams.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 10:55
by JC
Bodyshot3 wrote: 08 Jun 2020, 15:17He actually went the distance with Froch for the vacant British SMW title and Froch was thoroughly disgusted with the whole experience.....why won't the guy engage even for a moment or do something-anything?
Remember that fight. Was a horrible clash of styles.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 03:52
by AntonioMartin
Jimmy Smith:



Brian Sutherland:

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 11:14
by Duran1970
That guys nickname was "never lost a fight in the street" ???
That's friggin hilarious.

Re: Goofiest styles

Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 12:51
by banjo
Duran1970 wrote: 11 Jun 2020, 11:14 That guys nickname was "never lost a fight in the street" ???
That's friggin hilarious.
Don't think he ever won a fight in the street based on that either :lol: