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Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 21:08
by margaret thatcher
Who wins?
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 22:18
by Woldemar
AJ TKO 11
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 23:24
by goose 5
Joshua in about 2 rounds.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 05:24
by DrDuke
Joshua would outbox and stop Johnson.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 12 Jun 2020, 09:16
by Duran1970
Johnson W20 Joshua
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 16:58
by elmersalsa
Duran1970 wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 09:16
Johnson W20 Joshua
X2. It would be the first time that I would pick an old timer like the great Jack Johnson to beat Anthony Joshua. Joshua has not shown me nothing yet.
In this fight, size does not matter. Johnson was quite big himself.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 17:25
by margaret thatcher
Ya, 6 feet and 190 of solid muscle
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 18:07
by gilgamesh
Ask me again in about 5 or 6 years when AJ's Boxing legacy is either written or pretty close to being complete.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 18:26
by Ambling Alp II
When is it going to start?
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 18:46
by margaret thatcher
Ya, if only he beat up middleweights, teenagers, and guys inactive 6 years, then he'd not only have started, he'd be the atg #3 or something, jkjkjk lol

Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 19:51
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 18:46
Ya, if only he beat up middleweights, teenagers, and guys inactive 6 years, then he'd not only have started, he'd be the atg #3 or something, jkjkjk lol
I personally don't rank Johnson in my All time Heavyweight Top 10. Some people rate him real highly though.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 22:18
by margaret thatcher
gilgamesh wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 19:51
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 18:46
Ya, if only he beat up middleweights, teenagers, and guys inactive 6 years, then he'd not only have started, he'd be the atg #3 or something, jkjkjk lol
I personally don't rank Johnson in my All time Heavyweight Top 10. Some people rate him real highly though.

Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 14 Jun 2020, 22:25
by Ambling Alp II
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jun 2020, 18:46
Ya, if only he beat up middleweights, teenagers, and guys inactive 6 years, then he'd not only have started, he'd be the atg #3 or something, jkjkjk lol
Ya.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 14:43
by elmersalsa
Jack Johnson deserves to be top 5 heavyweight of all time. Hw is one of the most influencial boxers in history. I ranked him at #3 behind Muhammad Ali #1 and Joe Louis #2.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 14:51
by gilgamesh
elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 14:43
Jack Johnson deserves to be top 5 heavyweight of all time. Hw is one of the most influencial boxers in history. I ranked him at #3 behind Muhammad Ali #1 and Joe Louis #2.
One of the most influential he may be. One of the most accomplished, he is not.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 16:49
by elmersalsa
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 14:51
elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 14:43
Jack Johnson deserves to be top 5 heavyweight of all time. Hw is one of the most influencial boxers in history. I ranked him at #3 behind Muhammad Ali #1 and Joe Louis #2.
One of the most influential he may be. One of the most accomplished, he is not.
What didn't he accomplished? Let's look at his career.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 16:56
by gilgamesh
elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 16:49
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 14:51
One of the most influential he may be. One of the most accomplished, he is not.
What didn't he accomplished? Let's look at his career.
There's nothing in his era he didn't accomplish, it's just that many fighters accomplished more in there's, and beat better fighters.
That being said, he's sorta like Sonny Liston in that the best of his legacy was BEFORE becoming Heavyweight Champion.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 04:12
by DrDuke
Jack Johnson doesn't deserve even a place in the top 15. He's in top 20 tough.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 11:05
by Ambling Alp II
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 16:56
elmersalsa wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 16:49
What didn't he accomplished? Let's look at his career.
There's nothing in his era he didn't accomplish, it's just that many fighters accomplished more in there's, and beat better fighters.
That being said, he's sorta like Sonny Liston in that the best of his legacy was BEFORE becoming Heavyweight Champion.
You make a good point about what a fighter did before he was the champion. Johnson started his career 11 years and was 30 years old before he got a title shot. You have to take a look at his career before then as well. Same with Liston or anyone for that matter.
After Ali and Louis, there are about a half dozen guys who are fairly close and another 5 or so not that far behind them. Johnson is clearly is in the same league as in of them.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 16 Jun 2020, 11:09
by gilgamesh
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑16 Jun 2020, 11:05
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Jun 2020, 16:56
There's nothing in his era he didn't accomplish, it's just that many fighters accomplished more in there's, and beat better fighters.
That being said, he's sorta like Sonny Liston in that the best of his legacy was BEFORE becoming Heavyweight Champion.
You make a good point about what a fighter did before he was the champion. Johnson started his career 11 years and was 30 years old before he got a title shot. You have to take a look at his career before then as well. Same with Liston or anyone for that matter.
After Ali and Louis, there are about a half dozen guys who are fairly close and another 5 or so not that far behind them. Johnson is clearly is in the same league as in of them.
In terms of accomplishment, and notoriety in his era he is.
I think quite a few guys were better fighters than him, but admittedly he's so far back in the time capsule just like many others there's little footage of him, and what there is is very grainy.
Re: Joshua vs Jack Johnson
Posted: 17 Jun 2020, 04:49
by GPTM1403
Pre Ruiz I'd be more unsure about this one, after that I just feel that Johnson's ability to hit without being hit back and his stamina makes him a slight favourite.