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ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 11:19
by jewboypgh
Its been great to see free boxing 2x per week on ESPN.
I think these have been great cards. I love seeing the everyday guys like
Clay Collard. Man, can that kid fight.
Hope this continues.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 11:23
by Onetimeonly
Good for you, I find it unwatchable.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 12:06
by bobcatbox
Hats off to Uncle Bob for trying to make the best of a bad situation. There have been some great cards. Collard has been an unexpected entertainment in “the bubble,” and all of us should be grateful. The Joshua Franco victory was the highlight of this series. Loved the big upset over Greer by Mike Plania. I thought Mayer put on a good show last night. There’s no reason to be negative. Let’s just be glad we have boxing.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 12:09
by Onetimeonly
You have to a real optimist to call these cards anything but shit.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 12:13
by bobcatbox
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 12:09 You have to a real optimist to call these cards anything but poo.
*in my best Rick Derringer impression*
I.. am.. a real.. op-ti-mist...

You really didn’t enjoy the Franco fight or the Plania upset? I mean for Tuesday and Thursday night boxing it ain’t bad.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 12:16
by Onetimeonly
ryandmosley wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 12:13
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 12:09 You have to a real optimist to call these cards anything but poo.
*in my best Rick Derringer impression*
I.. am.. a real.. op-ti-mist...

You really didn’t enjoy the Franco fight or the Plania upset? I mean for Tuesday and Thursday night boxing it ain’t bad.
Didn't watch them.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 12:19
by margaret thatcher
Franco fight was really good! Enjoyed the Vences upset a lot too. Plania fight was decent too. Forget the names, but some unbeaten prospect kid got dropped and really pushed in an 8 rounder, that was good as well.

Not great cards, but there have been nice bits here and there. If you could record them and put them all onto a card or two, that would be good viewing.

Something like last night was obviouslly poo though, and even with Herring-Oquendo hardly much better

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 13:32
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Given the circumstances and budgets they have been ok.

Not good but ok

They arent unwatchable... there have been decent fights

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 13:49
by Onetimeonly
I get it. There's no sports, I'm actually surprised I can't watch them. No interest, watching beat Bobby flay instead.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 14:11
by margaret thatcher
Would be cool if they could combine boxing and beat bobby flay, so dudes get to actually beat on bobby flay

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 15:19
by world ranked
We out here celebrated Clay Collard like he the greatest thing I respect what he doing. He's a tough fighter gatekeeper type but trying to prop him up like the next champ. Its' that exciting loser syndrome. It's crazy

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20
by margaret thatcher
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:19 We out here celebrated Clay Collard like he the greatest thing I respect what he doing. He's a tough fighter gatekeeper type but trying to prop him up like the next champ. Its' that exciting loser syndrome. It's crazy
You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27
by world ranked
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:19 We out here celebrated Clay Collard like he the greatest thing I respect what he doing. He's a tough fighter gatekeeper type but trying to prop him up like the next champ. Its' that exciting loser syndrome. It's crazy
You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?
Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 16:33
by bobcatbox
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:19 We out here celebrated Clay Collard like he the greatest thing I respect what he doing. He's a tough fighter gatekeeper type but trying to prop him up like the next champ. Its' that exciting loser syndrome. It's crazy
You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?
Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.
Anyone pretending like he’s a contender is kidding themselves, but it’s fun to watch him club on some guys (and upset at least one so far) while he’s in the bubble and pandemic rages on.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 16:36
by margaret thatcher
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:19 We out here celebrated Clay Collard like he the greatest thing I respect what he doing. He's a tough fighter gatekeeper type but trying to prop him up like the next champ. Its' that exciting loser syndrome. It's crazy
You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?
Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.
Does anyone act like that really, isnt the whole point that he isnt 'that guy'

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 16:41
by Onetimeonly
ryandmosley wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:33
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20

You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?
Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.
Anyone pretending like he’s a contender is kidding themselves, but it’s fun to watch him club on some guys (and upset at least one so far) while he’s in the bubble and pandemic rages on.
He had like 4 upsets in a row. He's an mma guy. He's winning with work rate and balls but the one fight I saw he was gassed after 6.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 19:31
by world ranked
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:41
ryandmosley wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:33
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27

Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.
Anyone pretending like he’s a contender is kidding themselves, but it’s fun to watch him club on some guys (and upset at least one so far) while he’s in the bubble and pandemic rages on.
He had like 4 upsets in a row. He's an mma guy. He's winning with work rate and balls but the one fight I saw he was gassed after 6.
It's only upsets record those guys are guys going anywhere. All records not equal. Just because they have a zero in the lost column in ten fights dont mean there good. Clay is better than the record suggest. My only concern is do we want good fighters in important fights or gatekeepers dominated lesser fighters in exciting fights.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 19:36
by world ranked
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:36
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:27
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 15:20

You think they do it because he's a white collar white boi maybe?
Its because his style. But lets not act like he's the next thing smoking.
Does anyone act like that really, isnt the whole point that he isnt 'that guy'
I don't know really know the whole point. Its not his fault better fighters not getting meaningful fights. I don't want to see Clay Collard look great against no hoppers and then step and lose against a better fighter with a less attractive style but Clay continue get the TV slot repeating the cycle. I just more about meaningful fights and according to view numbers fans agree with me.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 19:49
by Onetimeonly
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:31
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:41
ryandmosley wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:33

Anyone pretending like he’s a contender is kidding themselves, but it’s fun to watch him club on some guys (and upset at least one so far) while he’s in the bubble and pandemic rages on.
He had like 4 upsets in a row. He's an mma guy. He's winning with work rate and balls but the one fight I saw he was gassed after 6.
It's only upsets record those guys are guys going anywhere. All records not equal. Just because they have a zero in the lost column in ten fights dont mean there good. Clay is better than the record suggest. My only concern is do we want good fighters in important fights or gatekeepers dominated lesser fighters in exciting fights.
An upset is a fight you're not favored in.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 19:53
by world ranked
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:49
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:31
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 16:41

He had like 4 upsets in a row. He's an mma guy. He's winning with work rate and balls but the one fight I saw he was gassed after 6.
It's only upsets record those guys are guys going anywhere. All records not equal. Just because they have a zero in the lost column in ten fights dont mean there good. Clay is better than the record suggest. My only concern is do we want good fighters in important fights or gatekeepers dominated lesser fighters in exciting fights.
An upset is a fight you're not favored in.
I haven't seen any lines for any of his fight except his last two and he was a favorite in one and underdog in one.

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 19:55
by Onetimeonly
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:53
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:49
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:31

It's only upsets record those guys are guys going anywhere. All records not equal. Just because they have a zero in the lost column in ten fights dont mean there good. Clay is better than the record suggest. My only concern is do we want good fighters in important fights or gatekeepers dominated lesser fighters in exciting fights.
An upset is a fight you're not favored in.
I haven't seen any lines for any of his fight except his last two and he was a favorite in one and underdog in one.
:lol:

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 20:05
by world ranked
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:55
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:53
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:49

An upset is a fight you're not favored in.
I haven't seen any lines for any of his fight except his last two and he was a favorite in one and underdog in one.
:lol:
Who/what makes a guy a favorite or underdog?

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 20:10
by Onetimeonly
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 20:05
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:55
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:53

I haven't seen any lines for any of his fight except his last two and he was a favorite in one and underdog in one.
:lol:
Who/what makes a guy a favorite or underdog?
Do you stand or squat when you pee?

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 20:12
by oogiebe
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 20:10
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 20:05
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:55
:lol:
Who/what makes a guy a favorite or underdog?
Do you stand or squat when you pee?
Best response ever. :clap:

Re: ESPN shows: Excellent!

Posted: 15 Jul 2020, 20:12
by world ranked
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 20:10
world ranked wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 20:05
Onetimeonly wrote: 15 Jul 2020, 19:55
:lol:
Who/what makes a guy a favorite or underdog?
Do you stand or squat when you pee?
I usually just squat on your face.