Light Heavyweights : Sergey Kovalev vs. Elvir Muriqi

[Woldemar]

IMO Kovalev by wide UD.

What your picks?

[margaret thatcher]

Kovalev batters him, scores a few kds, and stops him around the 8th, doubt Kov would lose a round

[drumzz]

If the fight is not fixed, Kovalev hurts him bad. If DLH has any part of Muriqi, then he will buy a judge or give Kov the millions he wants to throw the fight. The same B.S that happened in his Canelo bout.

[AntonioMartin]

If the fight is not fixed, Kovalev hurts him bad. If DLH has any part of Muriqi, then he will buy a judge or give Kov the millions he wants to throw the fight. The same B.S that happened in his Canelo bout.

I hate to go off topic but I think what really happened in the Canelo fight is Kovalev was already a bit worn from two fights with Andre Ward. Perfect for a good puncher like Saul to get a notable win.

About this bout, Kovalev wins easily. KO6 perhaps.

[gilgamesh]

Kovalev would beat the sh*t out of and KO Muriqi.

[gilgamesh]

If the fight is not fixed, Kovalev hurts him bad. If DLH has any part of Muriqi, then he will buy a judge or give Kov the millions he wants to throw the fight. The same B.S that happened in his Canelo bout.

I hate to go off topic but I think what really happened in the Canelo fight is Kovalev was already a bit worn from two fights with Andre Ward. Perfect for a good puncher like Saul to get a notable win.

About this bout, Kovalev wins easily. KO6 perhaps.

I don't think Kovalev gave a legitimate effort against Canelo, now whether he was paid off to do so or not is up for debate, but I have no doubt he didn't give his best effort or attempt to.

He moved and jabbed the whole fight. A bigger man, known for his punching power, didn't throw ANY meaningful powerful punches for 11 rounds.

That's not the actions of a man who's trying to win.

[AntonioMartin]

If the fight is not fixed, Kovalev hurts him bad. If DLH has any part of Muriqi, then he will buy a judge or give Kov the millions he wants to throw the fight. The same B.S that happened in his Canelo bout.

I hate to go off topic but I think what really happened in the Canelo fight is Kovalev was already a bit worn from two fights with Andre Ward. Perfect for a good puncher like Saul to get a notable win.

About this bout, Kovalev wins easily. KO6 perhaps.

I don't think Kovalev gave a legitimate effort against Canelo, now whether he was paid off to do so or not is up for debate, but I have no doubt he didn't give his best effort or attempt to.

He moved and jabbed the whole fight. A bigger man, known for his punching power, didn't throw ANY meaningful powerful punches for 11 rounds.

That's not the actions of a man who's trying to win.

Well, I didn't see this fight.

But I do see a lot of what you say in other bouts!

[giacomino]

If the fight is not fixed, Kovalev hurts him bad. If DLH has any part of Muriqi, then he will buy a judge or give Kov the millions he wants to throw the fight. The same B.S that happened in his Canelo bout.

I hate to go off topic but I think what really happened in the Canelo fight is Kovalev was already a bit worn from two fights with Andre Ward. Perfect for a good puncher like Saul to get a notable win.

About this bout, Kovalev wins easily. KO6 perhaps.

I don't think Kovalev gave a legitimate effort against Canelo, now whether he was paid off to do so or not is up for debate, but I have no doubt he didn't give his best effort or attempt to.

He moved and jabbed the whole fight. A bigger man, known for his punching power, didn't throw ANY meaningful powerful punches for 11 rounds.

That's not the actions of a man who's trying to win.

I thought his performance was odd too but to me he acted a little gunshy, which could have been because of getting KO'd by Ward and Alvarez.

[giacomino]

Crusher by KO9

[gilgamesh]

I hate to go off topic but I think what really happened in the Canelo fight is Kovalev was already a bit worn from two fights with Andre Ward. Perfect for a good puncher like Saul to get a notable win.

About this bout, Kovalev wins easily. KO6 perhaps.

I don't think Kovalev gave a legitimate effort against Canelo, now whether he was paid off to do so or not is up for debate, but I have no doubt he didn't give his best effort or attempt to.

He moved and jabbed the whole fight. A bigger man, known for his punching power, didn't throw ANY meaningful powerful punches for 11 rounds.

That's not the actions of a man who's trying to win.

I thought his performance was odd too but to me he acted a little gunshy, which could have been because of getting KO'd by Ward and Alvarez.

I mean he had beaten Alvarez in a rematch.

Ward should've DQ'd or had a point deducted. That wasn't a legitimate KO win. 3 low blows in a row, and he wins? I don't see why that would make you gunshy.

Now the Alvarez KO, I DO see why that would make you gunshy, and he did use a more cautious approach to win the rematch with Alvarez so you have a point there.

[DrDuke]

Talking about Elvir Muriqi matchup, Kovalev would score a confident KO win there.

Talking about Canelo bout, I had Kovalev ahead by the moment of the KO and I can understand Kovalev's tactics. Kovalev has been showing vulnerabilities in the exchanges at the later stage of his career. He was KOed by Ward, although not without some controversy. He was KOed by Eleider Alvarez. He was hurt badly against Yarde. He outboxed Eleider in dominant fashion in the rematch, when he was cautious. He had the best moments against Yarde, when he was methodical, and he timed well there when to be sharper. Canelo is known for his power and good chin, so Kovalev was doing the right thing and he was doing it well. Although it was obvious, that Canelo would have been aided by the judges, so Kovalev needed more risks in this sense.

[giacomino]

I don't think Kovalev gave a legitimate effort against Canelo, now whether he was paid off to do so or not is up for debate, but I have no doubt he didn't give his best effort or attempt to.

He moved and jabbed the whole fight. A bigger man, known for his punching power, didn't throw ANY meaningful powerful punches for 11 rounds.

That's not the actions of a man who's trying to win.

I thought his performance was odd too but to me he acted a little gunshy, which could have been because of getting KO'd by Ward and Alvarez.

I mean he had beaten Alvarez in a rematch.

Ward should've DQ'd or had a point deducted. That wasn't a legitimate KO win. 3 low blows in a row, and he wins? I don't see why that would make you gunshy.

Now the Alvarez KO, I DO see why that would make you gunshy, and he did use a more cautious approach to win the rematch with Alvarez so you have a point there.

Whether the Ward KO was legitimate or not (and I am not arguing it was), Crusher was invincible before the Ward fights and many if not most thought he got hosed in the first fight. He got beat up in the second fight and IMO he was shot by the time Ward KO’d or fouled the shit out of him. We’ve seen it many times in boxing where an unbeaten fighter gets beat and they never look the same. I am not saying 100% that’s what happened, just a supposition because he hasn’t looked the same to me

[margaret thatcher]

Later in his career he fights like a guy trying to conserve stamina better, he himself has mentioned several times stamina problems and getting tired in fights, and imo it was his biggest weakness during his prime . his chin obviously wasnt the best either, and it really could be more pragmatic than any fear to box cautiously

For the talk of a weak mentality bully who caves in I don't think he was really all that mentally shot, he kept getting up vs Eledir until his body couldnt (then went in vs him straight after and won), came back to KO Yarde after torrid tough moments that were physically worse than vs Ward, and then got ktfo vs Canelo, not like he quit or gave up in any of these when he shouldnt have

let's face it, he was already a hard drinking 36 something year old when he faced Canelo, his best days were gone and he was never gonna box his best match. the fight was pretty shortly after the tough go vs yarde too, and actually it seemed like a pretty even fight vs canelo, 6-4 either way or 5-5, not like he was doing really that bad, on most cards the result was still in the air going to the 11th