Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 15 Nov 2020, 05:30

Franco - Decision
3
50%
Franco - T/KO
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17%
DRAW
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Moloney - T/KO
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No votes
Moloney - Decision
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33%
 
Total votes: 6

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Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Joshua Franco vs Andrew Moloney rematch set to happen

WBA and IBF bantamweight champion Naoya ‘The Monster’ Inoue 19-0 (16) will defend his unified championship against Jason ‘Mayhem’ Moloney 21-1 (18) in November, according to promoter Bob Arum.

The card could also feature a rematch between Jason’s twin brother Andrew Moloney 21-1 (14), who lost his WBA ‘regular’ title to Joshua Franco 17-1-2 (8) in a close points decision in Las Vegas in June.

“Jason Moloney is scheduled this fall to fight against the ‘Monster’ from Japan, Inoue,” Top Rank chairman Arum told Corbin Middlemas on ABC Grandstand.

“Jason is in there with a hell of a shot. And his brother [Andrew] lost a tough fight to this [Joshua] Franco and there was a rematch clause fortunately, so we’re going to rematch that fight.”

“Jason Moloney and Inoue is signed, yeah,”
Arum continued. “And Andrew, we exercise the option with the Franco people. We hope to have both fights going in November.”

Earlier this month Franco praised Andrew Moloney for his toughness after lasting the distance with two perforated eardrums, losing a razor-thin decision by scores of 114-113, 115-112 and 114-113.

“That just shows what kind of heart he has,” Franco told The Ring. “He wants to fight again to try and get his [secondary WBA] belt back but I’m not gonna let him [get it back].

“I see the [rematch] going way different than the first fight. I don’t see it going 12 rounds.”

Moloney was shattered by the loss but insisted he could improve on the performance.

“It just wasn’t my night tonight,”
he said at the time.

“This was not the best version of Andrew Moloney, but full credit to Joshua Franco. He deserved to win the title with his effort. He closed the fight strong, like a true champion.

“I’ll be back. One loss won’t define me.”


Last month Moloney revealed his plan to take on Franco in an immediate rematch.

“I’m extremely excited to announce that I will be having a rematch with Joshua Franco,” he said.

“I want to say a huge thanks to Bob Arum and Top Rank Boxing for giving me this opportunity… I can’t wait to get back to America and fight on the big stage again soon. I’m now more motivated than ever to get my world title back.

“I worked my whole life to get that world title and I’m now hungrier than ever to get it back.”
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Crawford vs Brook: Joshua Franco-Andrew Moloney rematch added to Nov. 14 card

Franco upset Moloney for the WBA “world” super flyweight title in June.

Terence Crawford’s November 14th clash with Kell Brook will have some strong support, as ESPN reports that Joshua Franco’s contractually mandated rematch with Andrew Moloney will serve as the co-feature.

“There wasn’t any other thought in his head,” said Tony Tolj, who manages both Andrew and his brother, bantamweight title contender Jason Moloney. “He just had the tunnel vision to go straight into that fight because he was just so disappointed in himself and there were some factors with a couple of injuries in that fight — but you never like to make excuses with injuries. That’s part and parcel with this game.”

Franco (17-1-2, 8 KO), previously known for his 2018 upset loss to Lucas Leone and highly entertaining trilogy with Oscar Negrete, was a sizable underdog when he first met Moloney (21-1, 14 KO) in June; only Scott was crazy enough to call a Franco win, and even he admitted it was more of a gut feeling than anything. Then he went and thoroughly overpowered Moloney as the fight progressed, dashing the latter’s hopes of challenging Roman Gonzalez for the “super” version of the title.

Moloney immediately exercised his rematch clause, so here we are.

I’m mentioned my opposition to immediate rematches many times over, but I can’t imagine their second meeting being any less entertaining than the first. It’ll definitely be more competitive than the main event, at least.
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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same out come
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Losing this rematch will be ticket to B class category for Moloney IMO
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Cent0089 wrote: 15 Oct 2020, 14:21 Losing this rematch will be ticket to B class category for Moloney IMO
his brother is the better fighter to be fair , i know its stupid comparing twins but
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Franco-Moloney 2 official

It’s official. WBO welterweight world champion Terence “Bud” Crawford will defend his title against former welterweight world champion Kell Brook on November 14.

In the world championship co-feature, Joshua “El Profesor” Franco will defend his WBA super flyweight title against former world champion Andrew “The Monster” Moloney in a rematch of their June bout, won by Franco via decision.

ESPN and ESPN Deportes will televise Crawford-Brook and Franco-Moloney 2, while undercard bouts will stream live on ESPN+. Venue information for Crawford-Brook will be announced soon.

Moloney (21-1, 14 KOs), from Melbourne, Australia, won the interim world title with a knockout over Elton Dharry last November and was subsequently elevated to world champion. In his first world title defense, June 23 from the MGM Grand Las Vegas Bubble, he was upset via unanimous decision at the hands of Franco (17-1-2, 8 KOs), a native of San Antonio, Texas, who was previously best known for his action-packed trilogy with Oscar Negrete.

Said Moloney, “I am extremely excited and motivated for my rematch with Franco. I’m very grateful that Top Rank has given me the opportunity to get my revenge and reclaim my world title. I have been working extremely hard every day to make sure that world title is strapped back around my waist on Nov. 14.”
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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This weekend! :box:
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Franco: I’m the better fighter overall and that’s just a fact

By Jeff Zimmerman

The resume for WBA super flyweight champ Joshua “El Profesor” Franco (17-1-2, 8 KOs) looks like a throwback to the 40’s and 50’s when Sugar Ray Robinson fought Jake LaMotta 6 times and twice in a 3-week span. Although the comparison may be a bit of an exaggeration, when Franco meets Australian’s Andrew Moloney (21-1, 14 KOs) in their rematch this Saturday back at The Bubble at MGM in Las Vegas from their spirited first fight back in June where Franco won a convincing twelve round decision, Franco will have faced the same two fighters in five of his last six fights.

He fought three straight wars with Oscar Negrete that produced two draws and a win, followed up with a TKO victory against Jose Burgos sandwiched in between back in January in his hometown of San Antonio, before capturing the belt from Moloney in the summer.

But for the mild-mannered Franco, who has had the most unusual path to a world title, he believes those tough battles prepared him for this time in his career.

“Being through those tough battles, even with the loss I took in Puerto Rico, it was all worth it in the end,” said Franco. “I became a world champion. I felt like all those fights gave me the experience and the confidence going into the world title fight with Moloney and I came out on top.”

There is something going on in Texas that has made it a hotbed for boxing and has produced some great fighters in recent years including Spence Jr., Charlo Bros, Mo Hooker and Vergil Ortiz Jr just to name a few.

“It’s just the way we are raised as kids, as fighters. Our parents are not scared to throw us in with whoever,” explained Franco. “We used to have sparring sessions where different cities would come together, and we would spar until we were dead tired, and I think that grit and heart that we were born with coming out of Texas as a fight state.”

It was back in 2016 that Golden Boy was recruiting and signing young talent to build their stable around Canelo which included Franco along with Hector Tanajara Jr., also from San Antonio.

Franco is living out a dream fighting for Golden Boy.

“It means everything. They gave me the opportunity to sign with them. I had a goal in my mind and was going to make the most of it and become world champion,” Franco said. “That was even the talk when we first met with Golden Boy, they were going to make me world champion.

“It’s just a dream come true, especially even being signed by Golden Boy, growing up watching Oscar De La Hoya all the time, it’s just a blessing to be with them.”


Franco learned quickly that trying to become a champ is a much different feeling once you become the champ.

“You’re extra motivated and on top of the world, the way it feels, and you don’t want to lose the title,” stated Franco.

“Right after that fight, I was back in the gym, took a few days off, but I felt motivated. I got even extra fire in me, hungrier as a fighter. It does change a lot. It changes your mindset for sure.”

Franco realizes he will have to be even better than he was the first time against Moloney to keep the belt in the states.

“Maybe just do what I did the first time but be a little bit busier and more explosive,” shared Franco. “I’m the better fighter overall and that’s just a fact.

“I’m world champion now and I’m only getting better and it’s going to show on Saturday night.”


With his profile rising the 25-year-old Franco made a big move on the business side and signed with powerhouse manager Rick Mirigian, who is best known for his work with unified 140lb champ Jose Ramirez and previously with rising star Gabe Flores Jr.

“Robert [Garcia], my trainer, is the one that mentioned it to me and Hector Tanajara and Jonathan Navarro, that Rick would be a better manager for us, just because the way our career is going as we are starting to get up there, the way he talks and works for his fighters,” said Franco. “He works really hard for his fighters and keeps his word, so right away me and my dad agreed we would sign with him.”

With Mirigian now in his corner, one could only expect a bright future for Franco and major fights should he defend his title against Moloney who will be extra motivated to get his title back.

“Nothing lined up after this fight. That’s the goal of course. After this fight, I want to unify with Chocolatito or maybe Estrada. I don’t have anything lined up, but that would be something to look forward to.”

Perhaps with the talent surrounding his weight class, fighting a trilogy again or even another fighter twice would not be completely out of the question, but only this time the stakes and dollars will be much greater. And while no one is likely to confuse Franco with the legends Sugar Ray Robinson or Jake LaMotta, perhaps his unorthodox journey takes him to the hall of fame.

As Franco continues to improve and is still young, this could very well be his next big dream and if things continue to come together, he may very well be on his way.
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Joshua Franco: In Andrew Moloney rematch I’ll pick up where I left off

As WBA super flyweight titleholder Joshua Franco gets set to run it back with Andrew Moloney this weekend, Franco wants to make a point in this outing — that his last win over Moloney wasn’t just by happenstance. Franco tells RingTV that he was never hurt by Moloney in their first fight, and once he knew he could take his best shot he stepped on the gas in order pick up the pressure which ultimately earned him the win.


“It was a tough fight, but I expected more from Moloney in the first fight,” Franco told The Ring Saturday afternoon over the phone. “He never hurt me or landed a punch that got my attention. Once I felt I received his best is when I stepped up my attack. I put the pressure on him. In the rematch, I’m going to start where I left off. He’s not going to handle the pressure for 12 rounds.”

Franco, 25, would continue by saying that his sole professional loss to Lucas Fernandez Leone in 2018 actually motivated him to come back stronger, knowing that he could perform much better. And should Franco be able to walk away with another win over Moloney here, he’s hoping to land an even bigger fight against Roman Gonzalez in the coming year.

For now, though, the titleholder is primed to make a run in his division, saying with a fire lit inside of him, he’s not done making noise in the sport.
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Gonna be a really sweet rematch! Franco taking it again!
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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These Moloney brothers have brought a boring pillow punching game to America and been found out.
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Ok this one is simple. this isnt subjective criteria, this isnt a different point of view from a judge, This is, them watching the same replays as us, and saying they saw a headbut which noone else could see. So this is a simple ask, and i think moloneys team and the public should/will ask for it...

--What was the exact time of the headbut? and what angle showed it?--

They said they saw a heabut, so those questions are simple as it comes, nothing subjective, just a time and an angle. and if, based of there answers there isnt significant contact with moloneys head to francos right eye, then, robert byrd should never be an official in boxing again..
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Nov 2020, 06:52 These Moloney brothers have brought a boring pillow punching game to America and been found out.
Bit harsh. That pillow punching style should have earned him a second round TKO today !!
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Haven't seen the fight in full but seen highlights, clearly looked like a punch that caused it, surely it wasn't a case of Nevada commission bailing Russell Mora out the sh1t? No wonder Arum was going tits
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Officials do not like to admit that they got it wrong. I remember the case of Marlon starling v Tomas Molinares, where the bell rang ending the round and Starling dropped his guard. Molinares then swings a right hand from the fences and KOs Starling clearly after the bell. Larry Hazard was the ref who made the inaccurate call. Now despite the announcers showing Hazard replay after replay (even in slow motion) where Molinares doesn't even move his arm until the bell rang, he stubbornly wouldn't budge, saying the punch was already in motion at the bell. It wasn't until the cameras were off of him the next day that 'upon further review', the punch was thrown after the bell and the win for Molinares was changed to a NC.

I saw much of that happening last night. The officials, despite the technology at their disposal to review and re-review for almost a half hour with Maloney still in the ring, still would not bend and admit that the original call was bogus. In fact, what they presented as 'proof' was a slight bump of the head to Franco's left eye. But it was his right eye that was damaged! I would hope with the cameras off of them and behind closed doors, they reverse this travesty and award Maloney the win.
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Anywhere else, there would be no replay. The referee's call in round 1 would have stood, and we'd be with the same result. So getting the fornicate out of Vegas won't solve the issue. A clear break down of WHAT and HOW replays are going to be used is needed.

They need to be used BETWEEN rounds, unless the stoppage is immediate (see Cintron Vs Eto I). A call NEEDS to be made before the next round begins. If a call cannot be made that quickly, the referee's call should stand.

None of the is 26 minutes bullshit, they have 1 minute. Is there a clear and obvious mistake?

We can all say Moloney got shafted, but ANYWHERE other than Vegas we wouldn't be talking about it. We would be talking about needing fight #3.

Problem now is that this isn't a one off with bad replay calls. Pedraza vs LesPierre and going further back Arakawa vs Estrada had bad replay BS.

Whilst this one DID give us the wrong outcome, even a single mistaken call that then gets changed on the fly can alter the tactics of the fight. If a fighter scores a KD in round 1 that gets over turned during round 4 they'll potentially need to change their game plan. Likewise a KD in round 7 changing to not a KD in round 9 is going to make everyone pissed in round 10.

A long break between rounds to get a call made will not help things either, as it could leave fights being bitty and stop start.

They need to sort it out before running with it. Maybe even run it alongside fights, and see if it's actually workable, rather than run it IN fights. To me, it seems like we're a long way from it being workable, and it needs more angles, they need access to every TV camera, even the ones the the TV audience don't see. They maybe need a team of 3 officials reviewing the footage to make it work "live"
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Andre Ward in Moloney’s corner

ESPN commentator and future Hall of Famer Andre Ward has offered legal support to Andrew Moloney after his fight against Joshua Franco was ruled a no-decision contest in Las Vegas on Saturday.

“Andre spoke to me immediately after the fight and said ‘they robbed you’,” Moloney said. “He told me he’d watched all the replays and that there was no head clash. Said the damage was caused by a punch. So he said to keep my chin up and that I’d get an opportunity.”

“Andre phoned up his lawyer and said ‘we need to help this guy out, what they’ve done to him is wrong.’ So we now have his lawyer on board helping our appeal. And I’m so grateful for that. Obviously with Andre being a fighter himself, he understands what this means to me. Understands how much I’ve sacrificed.”


As part of the appeal process, Moloney, manager Tony Tolj and twin brother Jason also visited Arum’s Top Rank offices on Monday to finalize their paperwork for the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

“Bob has footage which clearly shows it was the punch that damaged the eye, not a head clash,” Moloney said. “So that gives me some confidence that we can get this overturned.

“And he is also really keen to get a third fight between myself and Franco held in Australia early next year which I’m also really excited about. We’ve heard over here that apparently my punch fractured Franco’s eye socket. So I’m ready to prove who the really champion is.”
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Andrew Moloney Legal Battle Continues Over Franco Rematch Outcome

Efforts by Andrew Moloney and his legal team for swift and resolute justice have so far been met with resistance.

The outcome of Moloney’s recent rematch with lone conqueror Joshua Franco on November 14 has been officially appealed by his team, formally protesting the No-Decision verdict that came of their ESPN-televised contest at MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas. The bout ended prior to the start of round three, when it was determined that San Antonio’s Franco was unable to continue due to a swollen shut right eye.

Moloney’s in-ring celebration was an organic reaction to the belief that he avenged his lone career defeat, when Franco claimed a 12-round decision and a secondary junior bantamweight title on June 23 in the very same venue. That moment was quickly disrupted upon learning that referee Russell Mora determined that the injury was caused by a headbutt.

Extensive replay strongly suggested that a Moloney left jab in the opening round initiated the damage, although a review process which took more than 26:00 minutes ultimately resulted with the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) honoring the in-ring ruling. As such, Franco (17-1-2, 8KOs; 1NC) left the ring—and the room entirely—with his title still intact, while Moloney (21-1, 14KOs; 1NC) will have to wait for a third fight in order to reclaim the title that should have come from the aftermath of their rematch.

From there has come contact between the commission and Moloney’s legal team, which as previously reported by Boxing Scene is headed by renowned boxing attorney Josh Dubin. Hopes of having the matter appear on the next NSAC monthly agenda hearing—currently scheduled for December 2—was instead met with the insistence that the matter will have to wait until the first quarter of 2021.

More troubling is the suggestion that the Nevada Attorney General’s Office (NVAGO) claims the matter to be officially under review, which contradicts state law.

“Andrew Moloney has a right to a hearing under Section 467.682(1) [of the Nevada Athletic Commission rules], which directs that the referee’s decision(s) declaring fouls during a bout may be overturned after a hearing before the Commission,” Dubin told Boxing Scene on Wednesday after having received the news from Nevada AG Mike Detmer. “The referee's decision to declare an accidental headbutt has received international media attention. Needless to say, it is critical that this process is transparent and that Mr. Moloney is afforded the due process to which he is entitled consistent with Nevada law.

“Any review that is currently taking place, prior to a hearing, is improper and premature. We are in the process of obtaining additional camera angles from ESPN that will play a critical role (at a hearing) in demonstrating that in fact no headbutt of any kind occurred during the bout. Any analysis of the bout without the benefit of those additional camera angles and my advocacy on behalf of Mr. Moloney defeats the purpose of conducting a hearing.”


The appeal filed by Team Moloney was acknowledged both by Bob Bennett, executive director of the NSAC, and the state’s Attorney General’s Office. The suggestion from Mr. Detmer was that the matter would not be heard before the commission’s five-person panel any earlier than the NSAC agenda hearing in January, if not February. It was alleged that no such room existed on the December docket, which currently only has a handful of requests for state venue usage by the UFC, along with temporary suspension reviews for a total of 10 combat sports athletes.

Among those whose cases are budgeted to be heard is disgraced former heavyweight contender Jarrell Miller, who remains suspended after having tested positive for a banned substance this past June. Miller’s case has appeared on new fewer than four monthly agenda hearing budgets, with each previous occasion merely resulting in an extension of his current suspension while the review process continues.

The remaining items—all of which cover athletes currently awaiting disciplinary action for having submitted positive drug tests surrounding bouts which have taken place in Las Vegas—are normally ruled upon in no more than three minutes per case.

The purpose of scheduling a case such as the one Moloney has filed would be to begin the official review process as soon as possible. In addition to the official appeal, Moloney’s legal team plans to provide video evidence to visually support their case.

For the commission to claim that the review process has begun without any such evidence or even a hearing to authorize such steps is in violation of their very laws in place.

“I thought it was a strange e-mail to get,” Dubin said of his exchange with the NVAGO. “Even stranger was the message contained within. This kid [Moloney] is sitting in quarantine in Australia (which requires mandatory two-way 14-day isolation when traveling to and from the country). He’s basically locked in a room. He’s sacrificed so much, yet the commission in a very cavalier way is saying, ‘Oh, we’ll see if we can get to it in January or February.

“The cavalier way in which they’re approaching this should be infuriating to the public, as much as it is to me and to Andrew.”

A misrepresentation by the NVAGO suggested that Moloney’s team is seeking an emergency meeting, which they in turn rejected in claiming it does not constitute such a process under Chapter 241.020 of the Nevada Revised Statutes (NRS) covering meetings of state and local agencies.

It has also been suggested that such a delay is necessary due to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic—which has forced state officials to meet monthly via conference call in lieu of in-person gatherings at state headquarters in Las Vegas—and the timing of the appeal.

Given the season, it’s fair to argue that the move is little more than political football.

“There’s no reason for this case to not be heard at the next meeting,” insists Dubin. “This whole issue over whether or not it’s doable due to COVID—as I’ve pointed out to (Attorney Detmer), I’ve been conducting court hearings and arguments, and video is not a problem to show over Zoom or any other conference call.

“They have an opportunity here to just admit that they made a mistake. Why they’re not doing that here, I don’t know. But I won’t let Andrew get screwed any more so than has already been the case.”
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Re: Joshua Franco vs. Andrew Moloney II - November 14, 2020

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Andrew Moloney Considering Legal Action To Have Appeal Heard Before Nevada Commission

Andrew Moloney is prepared to have his day in court in order to be heard before a state commission.

Nearly two months after receiving a formal appeal regarding the No-Decision verdict that came with Moloney’s junior bantamweight title fight rematch with Joshua Franco, the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) has yet to assign a date to field the case.

San Antonio’s Franco was not permitted to continue prior to the start of round three due to his right eye having swollen shut. The ruling by referee Russell Mora was that the damage was caused by a headbutt, to which Moloney and his team have vehemently and repeatedly contested. So far, the NSAC has remained resistant in allowing the case to be argued in a formal setting, with the delay leaving Moloney’s legal team prepared to take the necessary steps to advance matters.

“I sincerely hope the Commission will reverse course and grant Mr. Moloney a hearing,” Josh Dubin, Moloney’s lead attorney stated to the NSAC in a certified letter, a copy of which has been obtained by Boxing Scene. “In the event that you continue to deny Mr. Moloney the opportunity to be heard before the Commission, we will take appropriate legal action in the Nevada courts to enforce his rights.”

Moloney and Franco met last November in a rematch to their secondary 115-pound title fight, coming less than five months after Franco claimed a 12-round unanimous decision to dethrone then-unbeaten Moloney last June. Both fights aired live on ESPN from the MGM Grand Conference Center in Las Vegas, with the first bout serving as one of the best of 2020 whereas the rematch was more memorable for all of the wrong reasons.

The sequel saw Australia’s Moloney forcing Joshua’s right eye to swell shut after just two rounds. The fight was stopped just prior to the start of round three, at which point referee Russell Mora deemed that the injury was caused by a clash of heads. Replays appeared to indicate that it was Moloney’s jab which initiated the damage, and thus should have been awarded a TKO victory along with regaining his old title.

A 26-minute on-air delay to thoroughly examine replays of the sequence and the fight only resulted in allowing the ruling in the ring to stand.

In accordance with NSAC rules and regulations, Moloney’s team filed an official appeal less than two weeks later. As previously reported by BS.com, the response from the Nevada Attorney General’s Office (NVAGO) suggested a lengthy delay, citing COVID and claiming a full agenda for the next available commission meeting (which took place December 2) in justifying the claim while also noting the matter was “currently under review.”

Naturally, the reply was met with puzzlement by Moloney’s lawyers, citing the contradiction to NAC Section 467.682(1) which reads as follows:

“A referee is responsible for enforcing the rules of the contest or exhibition. The referee shall not permit unfair practices that may cause injuries to an unarmed combatant. The referee is the sole arbitrator of a bout, and the referee’s decisions in enforcing the rules of a contest or exhibition, declaring fouls or stopping a contest or exhibition may not be overturned except as otherwise provided pursuant to subsection 3 of NAC 467.770 after a hearing before the Commission.”

The December 2nd hearing came and went without the matter appearing before the commission, which has yet to schedule its first monthly agenda for the new year. The lone response to come from the commission—via the Attorney General’s office—came on December 11, including an official letter from one day prior in stating that “the Nevada State Athletic Commission… took the position that my client Andrew Moloney’s argument “does not provide a basis for the Commission to change the result.”

The aforementioned reply along with three weeks’ of silence has prompted a new entry in this ongoing case.

“Respectfully, we disagree with this position and the strained logic of the argument in your Letter,” Dubin notes in his certified letter to the commission on Tuesday. “It has become clear that you are merely attempting to justify the denial of a hearing before the Commission—a hearing Mr. Moloney should be afforded as of right under Nevada Administrative Code (“NAC”) Section 467.682(1).

“I write to clarify for the Commission how Mr. Moloney’s protest of the outcome of his November 14th bout directly implicates, per NAC Section 467.770(3), an “error in interpreting a provision of [NAC Chapter 467],” and to urge the Commission to reconsider the decision to not allow Mr. Moloney to come before it for a hearing.”

NAC section 467.770(3) states: “As the result of an error in interpreting a provision of this chapter, the referee has rendered an incorrect decision.”

Thus remains the basis of Moloney’s argument, complete with still frames of the fight and sequence in question to contest Mora’s interpretation of a headbutt.

“The Commission takes the position that, “[e]ven assuming arguendo that the headbutt did not occur, such would only amount to an incorrect factual determination of the referee and would not be a misinterpretation of a provision of NAC 467.” Mr. Moloney is, in fact, not asserting the Referee misapprehended what he observed,” explains Dubin. “To the contrary, the video evidence supports an inference that the Referee misinterpreted the definition of “butting with the head” under NAC 467.675(7).

“NAC Section 467.675(7) states: Butting with the head, shoulder, knee or elbow. The Cambridge English Dictionary defines the verb “to butt” as “to hit something or someone hard with the head.” The Referee is obliged to interpret “butting” based on its plain meaning, a standard set by the Nevada Supreme Court.

However, video stills from the fight indicate the Referee interpreted “butting” to mean something less than “hitting”—e.g., “grazing” or coming in close proximity with the head. That is clearly an error of interpretation for which we are seeking a hearing before the Commission. Mr. Moloney and his opponent’s heads did come close to each other—that was not a misapprehension by the Referee.”

The argument continues: “The Referee did not misperceive the fighters’ heads coming close, because the video shows their heads were proximate to one another (although, as I explained in my November 18 letter, their heads did not touch and none of the above images indicate a headbutt). Rather, Referee Mora misinterpreted NAC Section 467.675(7) to include when the combatants’ heads are proximate to one another. But that is outside of the plain meaning of a “headbutt.” If Mr. Moloney is given the opportunity to present video of the fight at a hearing before the Commission, we would be able to definitively show that the Referee misinterpreted the meaning of ‘butting with the head.

“You argue it is irrelevant whether or not a headbutt occurred because all that matters is what the Referee perceived. But this is an untenable position. If the Referee is operating with his own, incorrect definition of what constitutes a headbutt, he might call a non-headbutt and a headbutt the same way and could therefore mistakenly call a foul without any available recourse for the aggrieved combatant to seek before the Commission.”

Commission compliance within its own rules would at least provide Moloney a chance for what he and his team believe would be the right call to be made in the aftermath. As such, the revised ruling would render the Aussie a two-time secondary titlist rather than enter a still-discussed third fight once again as the challenger.

Without such a path being made available, the conversation then turns to why the rules even exist.

“Indeed, your Letter states that “[p]ursuant to” NAC Section 467.682(1), “a referee’s decision of whether a blow or maneuver is a foul is inherently within the referee’s discretion,” but this ignores that NAC Section 467.682(1) also says the referee’s decisions “declaring fouls” may be overturned “pursuant to subsection 3 of NAC 467.770 after a hearing before the Commission,” notes Dubin. “It cannot be the case that the Referee has complete discretion over decisions to declare fouls. Otherwise, the words of NAC Section 467.682(1) would be meaningless.

“At the very least, whether or not Mr. Mora misinterpreted NAC Section 467.675(7) is something that warrants scrutiny and is in the interests of promoting public confidence in your Commission. The Commission should err on the side of caution and hear Mr. Moloney out, instead of relying on a strained, narrow legal interpretation to justify denial of his rights before all of the evidence has been reviewed. I sincerely hope the Commission will reverse course and grant Mr. Moloney a hearing.”
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