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Oliver McCall

James Smith

Vitali UD 12 (117-111) McCall

Vitali UD 12 ( 116-112) Smith

McCall would be outboxed to a wide decision.

Bonecrusher could make it a fight, but still Klitschko would edge there.

Is Vitali Klitschko versus two goofy-goofy guys. I don't know how did those two became champions.

elmersalsa wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 10:29 Is Vitali Klitschko versus two goofy-goofy guys. I don't know how did those two became champions.

Both had unmotivated opponents, when became champions. However, Bonecrusher was much better than McCall.

Not sure what made bone crusher much better than McCall, but I'd take vit to outpoint both.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 23:44 Not sure what made bone crusher much better than McCall

Bonecrusher was tougher and sharper as fighter, what made him a more dangerous opponent.

DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 05:28

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 23:44 Not sure what made bone crusher much better than McCall

Bonecrusher was tougher and sharper as fighter, what made him a more dangerous opponent.

Tougher?

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 10:21

DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 05:28

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 23:44 Not sure what made bone crusher much better than McCall

Bonecrusher was tougher and sharper as fighter, what made him a more dangerous opponent.

Tougher?

You probably don't get it. He was tougher as a fighter, not in terms of chin. I mean, he could bring it anytime.

DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 10:29

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 10:21

DrDuke wrote: ↑09 Sep 2020, 05:28

Bonecrusher was tougher and sharper as fighter, what made him a more dangerous opponent.

Tougher?

You probably don't get it. He was tougher as a fighter, not in terms of chin. I mean, he could bring it anytime.

Yeah, my mistake.

Vitali by UD in both fights.

Vitali wins both.....and in the case of McCall who blew so hot and cold, a stoppage is not out of the question.

I also think Smith makes a far better fist of it....he was a big, organised powerful (if limited) HW, unlikely to be bullied and he travelled well. He came over to London and definitely dealt with Bruno's power, a hostile atmosphere and won big late in the day....he also reversed an earlier bad result against 'Spoon.

McCall didn't blow hot and cold taking punches. Vitali couldn't hurt him with a bat.

Klitschko could outbox McCall easy.
Oliver didn't have those skills.

Evander wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 05:06 Klitschko could outbox McCall easy.
Oliver didn't have those skills.

He'd be the best vitali ever beat.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 08:24

Evander wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 05:06 Klitschko could outbox McCall easy.
Oliver didn't have those skills.

He'd be the best vitali ever beat.

In terms of achievements - yes, but some of Vitali's opponents could handle McCall. It would be no surprise, if the likes of Peter, Adamek or Chisora did that.

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 09:33

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 08:24

Evander wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 05:06 Klitschko could outbox McCall easy.
Oliver didn't have those skills.

He'd be the best vitali ever beat.

In terms of achievements - yes, but some of Vitali's opponents could handle McCall. It would be no surprise, if the likes of Peter, Adamek or Chisora did that.

It would be more surprizing, if idiOTO answered something more than just his favorite emoji.

Adamek??!!!

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:27Adamek??!!!

And why not? At his best he was a technically solid boxer with decent skillset.

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:32

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:27Adamek??!!!

And why not? At his best he was a technically solid boxer with decent skillset.

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:32

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:27Adamek??!!!

And why not? At his best he was a technically solid boxer with decent skillset.

You act like you've only seen Adamek's fights against Molina and Miller.

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:42

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:38

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:32

And why not? At his best he was a technically solid boxer with decent skillset.

You act like you've only seen Adamek's fights against Molina and Miller.

Wow you deduced all that. Wrong again Dukie.

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:46

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:42

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:38

You act like you've only seen Adamek's fights against Molina and Miller.

Wow you deduced all that. Wrong again Dukie.

"Whatever" (c)

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:48

oogiebe wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:46

DrDuke wrote: ↑11 Sep 2020, 10:42

You act like you've only seen Adamek's fights against Molina and Miller.

Wow you deduced all that. Wrong again Dukie.

"Whatever" (c)

Dukie my boy. I thought you said that using that term indicated a person lost an argument.