Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 14 Sep 2020, 02:58
Should good ol' Betulio of Venezuela be in??
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Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
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Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 14 Sep 2020, 19:48
Put me down for "Yes".
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 14 Sep 2020, 20:55
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 11:13
I wouldn't complain if he got in, but Santos Laciar, who defeated him and is more deserving, hasn't made it in.
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 11:28
In agreement with this. Betulio wouldn't be out of place in IBHOF, but there are other flyweights waiting to get in in front of him in a line... Santos Laciar & Masao Oba at very least.
...so I voted "Maybe"
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 11:53
Masao Ohba was inducted in 2015.
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:10
Have they not updated this????
http://www.ibhof.com/pages/about/inductees/modern.html
'cause Ohba/Oba definitely can not be found there...
or was he inducted in now-defunch WBHoF?
Edit. Okay, I found him but I do not understand how he is in "Old-Timer" category??? As is Yoko Gushiken. They are decades more contemporary than anyone else on that side...
Has it been a sidedoor for guys who are worthy but whom majority American voters wouldn't vote in???
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 12:59
I would lean towards "yes" but unfortunately he won't sell tickets and a lot of the voters don't really know much about fights that happened off American TV or outside of America or Europe.
The likes of Lionel Rose, Rafael Herrera, Chucho Castillo, Gilberto Roman, Santos Laciar, Hiroyuki Ebihara, Horaco Accavallo, Pone Kingpetch, Jose Medel, Jose Legra, Johnny Famechon, Rodolfo Martinez, Jose Becerra etc; etc; fall under this category of being either totally deserving or borderline/probably yes who won't get a look in but Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Deontay Wilder etc; will get a push.
The likes of Lionel Rose, Rafael Herrera, Chucho Castillo, Gilberto Roman, Santos Laciar, Hiroyuki Ebihara, Horaco Accavallo, Pone Kingpetch, Jose Medel, Jose Legra, Johnny Famechon, Rodolfo Martinez, Jose Becerra etc; etc; fall under this category of being either totally deserving or borderline/probably yes who won't get a look in but Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Deontay Wilder etc; will get a push.
Re: Should Betulio Gonzalez be in the IBHOF?
Posted: 16 Sep 2020, 15:00
This one of many recent similar threads and the general conundrum, perfectly described here by Chris, sums up these ridiculous Halls of Fame perfectly. Why does anyone actually care who should be in and who shouldn't. The whole concept is open to abuse, favouritism and is left to so-called experts to decide upon who is in and who is out.chrisjs1985 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2020, 12:59 I would lean towards "yes" but unfortunately he won't sell tickets and a lot of the voters don't really know much about fights that happened off American TV or outside of America or Europe.
The likes of Lionel Rose, Rafael Herrera, Chucho Castillo, Gilberto Roman, Santos Laciar, Hiroyuki Ebihara, Horaco Accavallo, Pone Kingpetch, Jose Medel, Jose Legra, Johnny Famechon, Rodolfo Martinez, Jose Becerra etc; etc; fall under this category of being either totally deserving or borderline/probably yes who won't get a look in but Danny Garcia, Keith Thurman, Guillermo Rigondeaux, Deontay Wilder etc; will get a push.
Just ignore them and talk about actual history, you know, things that really happened
Miles Templeton