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The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 09 Oct 2020, 13:24
by chad
Just 3 days ago we got confirmation the fight was no longer on PPV. Frank stated “This is about keeping boxing alive and relevant at a tough time and doing something for the fans and we have moved heaven and earth to put this on as a BT Sport subscription Fight Night instead.” A nice surprise.

Today we get news that the Premier League have agreed a deal with BT and Sky to show games on a PPV starting this month. The games will be costing £14.99 each and will mainly feature on a Saturday.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54481945

Talks have apparently been taking place between the Premier League and the broadcasters for over a week to agree this deal.

I suspect BT have known this was going to be the likely outcome for days now. They've probably said to Frank they are almost certain to be showing a live PPV Premier League game on 28th November. Too much hassle trying to sort out the logistics of selling 2 PPV's on the same date on the same channel etc...

Forget Joyce vs Dubios being moved for the fans, more likely it's being moved for the football.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 09 Oct 2020, 18:33
by gregregegg
fornicate 15 pound for a regular season football game? seems outrageous.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37
by mickey1975
My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 09:49
by JimStone
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37 My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....
He has to pay the £14.95? Why does he have to? That seems unfair. Who is demanding he pays?

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 09:52
by cormack
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37 My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....
wells only for one season until they get relegated :lol:

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 09:54
by steve689
PPV football matches. Illegal streams gonna through the roof. What a bunch of scumbags.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 10:30
by tony1234
The football is only for the next 3 rounds of fixtures and given the coverage today maybe it won't last that long. If it does though it could affect all the boxing PPV's if people decide to choose football on a Saturday night

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 10:54
by Boxerbeetle
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37 My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....
That’s a joke, your friend should find a better team to support.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 10:57
by jameswilson
Very poorly timed given what some people will be going through currently.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 11:08
by JimStone
jameswilson wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 10:57 Very poorly timed given what some people will be going through currently.

Disagree. It gives those supporters who would have gone to the matches in-person an option they can take if they want to.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 11:12
by Boxerbeetle
JimStone wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 11:08
jameswilson wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 10:57 Very poorly timed given what some people will be going through currently.

Disagree. It gives those supporters who would have gone to the matches in-person an option they can take if they want to.
Season ticket holders have paid already though, that’s the point.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 11:12
by dr_devious
Its pure bulls1t for everyone, doubly so if you're a season ticket holder

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 11:20
by rd350lc
Love to see top flight football implode .
I loved this game as a kid , despise all the money being banded about , it's insane !!.
Pay premiership footballers sensible wages , stop agents milking it.
It's the lower level leagues I feel for , there will be many casualties if the elite don't pass some of their wealth on .

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 12:38
by Rezzer1967
stevec@france wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 09:52
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37 My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....
wells only for one season until they get relegated :lol:
Have you seen them play...they are clearly not going to get relegated

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 12:45
by Boxerbeetle
Rezzer1967 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 12:38
stevec@france wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 09:52
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Oct 2020, 04:37 My friend is a season ticket holder at Leeds. No refund for games missed and will have to pay the £14.95. For the last games of last season they got a programme and subscription to LUTV....
wells only for one season until they get relegated :lol:
Have you seen them play...they are clearly not going to get relegated
I wouldn’t be so sure, even in the Championship they used to completely collapse in the second half of the season, COVID helped them get promotion with the long break.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 12:47
by jameswilson
Yeah as beetle said the season ticket holders remain out of pocket.


Personally I might be able to get on board with this if the proceeds are used to support the football league clubs and lower leagues as well.

I think a stat a few years ago said the premier league clubs could still make a profit without crowds at all. That may we’ll not quite be the case today but your lower league clubs are gonna be buggered pure and simple. If this ends up generating a lot of money I wouldn’t want it just going to the premier league clubs even tho I support a premier league club.

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 13:19
by Boxerbeetle
Surely clubs will just have to sort out an arrangement with season ticket holders.

I’m a season ticket holder at a Championship club - last season we got a full refund for all games we couldn’t attend due to COVID plus a free stream for all home + away games after the restart, then this season we’re getting a full credit against next season’s renewal price for all games missed (with the option of deducting £10 per game to stream home matches).

So it can easily be done, just pure greed. But who can be surprised by the Premier League being greedy? :maybe:

Re: The real reason Joyce v Dubios is no longer PPV?

Posted: 10 Oct 2020, 13:24
by CaptainSpacerod
I’m surprised that Leeds fans have had to buy a season ticket for a season when attending matches is far from certain.

I’m a Man City season ticket holder and no season tickets have been made available this season. Should fans be allowed back into games tickets will be distributed using a ballot system and a pro rata payment based on the price of last year’s ticket will be taken.