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Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 16:29
by mayorcurley
45-2-0 41 KOs
87% KO PCT
Dr. Ironfist
6'7", 245-250 lbs
Won WBC Title, defended, retired
Won WBC Title again, defended 8 more times
Only losses
Valiant effort against Lennox Lewis
Injured shoulder vs Chris Byrd could not continue, 10th round Vitali was way ahead on points
Notable wins
Corrie Sanders
Shannon Briggs
Tomasz Adamek
Samuel Peter
Larry Donald
Danny Williams
Chris Arreola
Orlin Norris
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 16:33
by oogiebe
Jeez....not again...
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 16:49
by DrDuke
He was as great as the second tier champions of the Larry Holmes era or like brief champions between the Lewis and Wlad eras, i.e. he was the belt-holder, but he wasn't the man of the division.
In the Klitschko era Wlad was the man, while Vitali was a sorta appendage to his lil' brother. Wlad was whooping the best opposition possible, Vitali was dealing with the remains and he sorta shared Wlad's glory.
A pretty strange case for the boxing history.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 16:55
by mayorcurley
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:49
He was as great as the second tier champions of the Larry Holmes era or like brief champions between the Lewis and Wlad eras, i.e. he was the belt-holder, but he wasn't the man of the division.
In the Klitschko era Wlad was the man, while Vitali was a sorta appendage to his lil' brother. Wlad was whooping the best opposition possible, Vitali was dealing with the remains and he sorta shared Wlad's glory.
A pretty strange case for the boxing history.
The man never lost a title defense and was never knocked down!
Nine title defenses and never knocked down.
He only has one real loss on his record and it was to all-time great Lennox.
How can he be second tier?????
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 16:59
by DrDuke
mayorcurley wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:55
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:49
He was as great as the second tier champions of the Larry Holmes era or like brief champions between the Lewis and Wlad eras, i.e. he was the belt-holder, but he wasn't the man of the division.
In the Klitschko era Wlad was the man, while Vitali was a sorta appendage to his lil' brother. Wlad was whooping the best opposition possible, Vitali was dealing with the remains and he sorta shared Wlad's glory.
A pretty strange case for the boxing history.
The man never lost a title defense and was never knocked down!
Nine title defenses and never knocked down.
He only has one real loss on his record and it was to all-time great Lennox.
How can he be second tier?????
Because Wlad was dealing with the best of the division, so he was the man, the first tier. Vitali should have either do that instead of Wlad or defeat Wlad to become the man. So, your surprise is quite awkward here.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 17:10
by mayorcurley
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:59
mayorcurley wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:55
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:49
He was as great as the second tier champions of the Larry Holmes era or like brief champions between the Lewis and Wlad eras, i.e. he was the belt-holder, but he wasn't the man of the division.
In the Klitschko era Wlad was the man, while Vitali was a sorta appendage to his lil' brother. Wlad was whooping the best opposition possible, Vitali was dealing with the remains and he sorta shared Wlad's glory.
A pretty strange case for the boxing history.
The man never lost a title defense and was never knocked down!
Nine title defenses and never knocked down.
He only has one real loss on his record and it was to all-time great Lennox.
How can he be second tier?????
Because Wlad was dealing with the best of the division, so he was the man, the first tier. Vitali should have either do that instead of Wlad or defeat Wlad to become the man. So, your surprise is quite awkward here.
Common opponent Corrie Sanders......
Vitali 8th rd KO
Wlad 2nd rd KO by
Vitali and Wlad refused to fight each other
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 17:20
by DrDuke
mayorcurley wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 17:10
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:59
mayorcurley wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 16:55
The man never lost a title defense and was never knocked down!
Nine title defenses and never knocked down.
He only has one real loss on his record and it was to all-time great Lennox.
How can he be second tier?????
Because Wlad was dealing with the best of the division, so he was the man, the first tier. Vitali should have either do that instead of Wlad or defeat Wlad to become the man. So, your surprise is quite awkward here.
Common opponent Corrie Sanders......
Vitali 8th rd KO
Wlad 2nd rd KO by
Vitali and Wlad refused to fight each other
Wlad came back after that and defeated opponents, who were supposed to be better than Sanders. Wlad cleaned the division up, not Vitali.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 17:46
by oogiebe
C'mon, we've been through this a hundred times. Vit wasn't great.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 17:50
by DrDuke
Only a one, who was the man in his division, can be called great.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 17:53
by oogiebe
DrDuke wrote: ↑31 Oct 2020, 17:50
Only a one, who was the man in his division, can be called great.
Duke, just cut and paste from the other scores of Vit threads.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 01:48
by Onetimeonly
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 08:32
by mayorcurley
Haters who can't admit the greatness of Dr. Ironfist!
Never seen Vitaly get rolled around on the canvas like Joe Frazier did vs. Foreman.
Never saw Vitaly destroyed in the corner like Ali vs. Holmes.
Never saw Vitaly flat on his back like Louis vs. Marciano.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 08:37
by mayorcurley
A typical bout with Vitaly
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
You try to counter a right to his steel chin
You break your knuckles
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
Knockout sends you to hospital!!!!
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 09:27
by DrDuke
mayorcurley wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 08:32
Haters who can't admit the greatness of Dr. Ironfist!
Never seen Vitaly get rolled around on the canvas like Joe Frazier did vs. Foreman.
Never saw Vitaly destroyed in the corner like Ali vs. Holmes.
Never saw Vitaly flat on his back like Louis vs. Marciano.
As if Vitali fought anyone like Foreman, Holmes or Marciano.
Anyway, he was KTFOed by Pele Reid in the amateur kickboxing, what Foreman or Marciano we are talking about?
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 09:34
by gilgamesh
He's not. He was just very good.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 09:47
by DrDuke
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 09:34
He's not. He was just very good.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 14:04
by Onetimeonly
mayorcurley wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 08:37
A typical bout with Vitaly
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
You try to counter a right to his steel chin
You break your knuckles
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
Knockout sends you to hospital!!!!
Pillow puncher.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 14:26
by Ambling Alp II
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 09:34
He's not. He was just very good.
You are being very generous.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 16:59
by matchstick
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 14:04
mayorcurley wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 08:37
A typical bout with Vitaly
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
You try to counter a right to his steel chin
You break your knuckles
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Thudding jab
Hammer right
Knockout sends you to hospital!!!!
Pillow puncher.
87% KO PCT
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 17:04
by matchstick
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 14:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 09:34
He's not. He was just very good.
You are being very generous.
Along with Oliver McCall and Nikolai Valuev, he is also the only world heavyweight champion to have never been knocked down in any fight. Klitschko and George Foreman are the only heavyweight boxers in history to defend a world title after turning 40.
Never knocked down!
9 successful title defenses!
11-1 in major title fights!
Higher KO PCT than George Foreman and Earnie Shavers!
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 17:40
by oogiebe
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:04
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 14:26
gilgamesh wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 09:34
He's not. He was just very good.
You are being very generous.
Along with Oliver McCall and Nikolai Valuev, he is also the only world heavyweight champion to have never been knocked down in any fight. Klitschko and George Foreman are the only heavyweight boxers in history to defend a world title after turning 40.
Never knocked down!
9 successful title defenses!
11-1 in major title fights!
Higher KO PCT than George Foreman and Earnie Shavers!
KO % is overrated.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 17:55
by matchstick
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:40
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:04
Along with Oliver McCall and Nikolai Valuev, he is also the only world heavyweight champion to have never been knocked down in any fight. Klitschko and George Foreman are the only heavyweight boxers in history to defend a world title after turning 40.
Never knocked down!
9 successful title defenses!
11-1 in major title fights!
Higher KO PCT than George Foreman and Earnie Shavers!
KO % is overrated.
Vitali was never really losing a fight....... 47 fights...... Never knocked down
45-2
and they were stopped due to injury. HE WAS LEADING ON ALL CARDS IN HIS 2 LOSSES
41 Blistering Knockouts
Never knocked down
Came out of retirement to win title (Ali lost)
Wins almost every round in every bout
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 18:05
by oogiebe
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:55
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:40
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:04
Along with Oliver McCall and Nikolai Valuev, he is also the only world heavyweight champion to have never been knocked down in any fight. Klitschko and George Foreman are the only heavyweight boxers in history to defend a world title after turning 40.
Never knocked down!
9 successful title defenses!
11-1 in major title fights!
Higher KO PCT than George Foreman and Earnie Shavers!
KO % is overrated.
Vitali was never really losing a fight....... 47 fights...... Never knocked down
45-2
and they were stopped due to injury. HE WAS LEADING ON ALL CARDS IN HIS 2 LOSSES
41 Blistering Knockouts
Never knocked down
Came out of retirement to win title (Ali lost)
Wins almost every round in every bout
Sorry chief...very thin resume and an arm puncher. We've been over this on this forum too many times already.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 18:22
by matchstick
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 18:05
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:55
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:40
KO % is overrated.
Vitali was never really losing a fight....... 47 fights...... Never knocked down
45-2
and they were stopped due to injury. HE WAS LEADING ON ALL CARDS IN HIS 2 LOSSES
41 Blistering Knockouts
Never knocked down
Came out of retirement to win title (Ali lost)
Wins almost every round in every bout
Sorry chief...very thin resume and an arm puncher. We've been over this on this forum too many times already.
Arm puncher with the highest KO pct?
The opinions don't match the stats. 235 rounds of boxing and he won almost every round. He shut out almost every opponent he faced.
41 KO arm puncher. 41 out of 45 wins. Imagine if he punched with his body? His arm punches knocked out a higher rate than George Foreman.
Re: Why Vitali Klitschko is Great
Posted: 01 Nov 2020, 18:41
by oogiebe
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 18:22
oogiebe wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 18:05
matchstick wrote: ↑01 Nov 2020, 17:55
Vitali was never really losing a fight....... 47 fights...... Never knocked down
45-2
and they were stopped due to injury. HE WAS LEADING ON ALL CARDS IN HIS 2 LOSSES
41 Blistering Knockouts
Never knocked down
Came out of retirement to win title (Ali lost)
Wins almost every round in every bout
Sorry chief...very thin resume and an arm puncher. We've been over this on this forum too many times already.
Arm puncher with the highest KO pct?
The opinions don't match the stats. 235 rounds of boxing and he won almost every round. He shut out almost every opponent he faced.
41 KO arm puncher. 41 out of 45 wins. Imagine if he punched with his body? His arm punches knocked out a higher rate than George Foreman.
Imagine if he fought better competition.
