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Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 11:13
by jpspice
What about Crawford vs Thurman? Seems like that could be a great fight to me.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 12:01
by Enlightened-One
jpspice wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 11:13 What about Crawford vs Thurman? Seems like that could be a great fight to me.
Thurman recently told the media of that he's at the front of the queue to face fellow PBC stablemate, Errol Spence Jr., during the second half of next year.

Apparently, this is more than just a rumour.

I suspect Thurman will have a warm-up bout prior to facing Spence Jr.

Bob Arum says he's trying to put Pacquiao against Crawford next, but the Top Rank head honcho initially mentioned it during 2014 and from 2016 onwards, he kept talking about that fight, but has never managed to do it.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 13:00
by bobcatbox
There is no chance Pac sets foot in the ring with Crawford. It’s not happening. Pac has a lot easier fights he can make some money on.

Crawford vs Thurman is even less likely than Crawford vs Spence. If those two sides wanted to sit at the same table, they’d make the mega fight that actually makes them money.

Crawford’s career will forever be without a marquee win despite being a multi-weight dominant champion. Welterweight was thin enough the past five years, and the best ones were almost all signed up with the PBC. Crawford was with Top Rank. And that’s why the fights didn’t get made.

Arum can bemoan Crawford all he wants, but his lack of marketability lies in part with TR. If the Spence fight doesn’t get made, it’s on TR. They had everything to gain by making the fight and very little to lose.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 20:59
by siablo14
bobcatbox wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 13:00 There is no chance Pac sets foot in the ring with Crawford. It’s not happening. Pac has a lot easier fights he can make some money on.

Crawford vs Thurman is even less likely than Crawford vs Spence. If those two sides wanted to sit at the same table, they’d make the mega fight that actually makes them money.

Crawford’s career will forever be without a marquee win despite being a multi-weight dominant champion. Welterweight was thin enough the past five years, and the best ones were almost all signed up with the PBC. Crawford was with Top Rank. And that’s why the fights didn’t get made.

Arum can bemoan Crawford all he wants, but his lack of marketability lies in part with TR. If the Spence fight doesn’t get made, it’s on TR. They had everything to gain by making the fight and very little to lose.
Red - Nah. Spence and PBC won't even blink at Bud right now. They have options.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 16 Nov 2020, 23:05
by bobcatbox
siablo14 wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 20:59
Red - Nah. Spence and PBC won't even blink at Bud right now. They have options.
Fair point. It makes little sense for PBC to roll the dice on a Spence loss right now when they as a promotion have little to gain in the long-run if TC wins before he’s under their banner.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 03:01
by Best Coast
Crawford said in the post-fight interview after beating Brook that he wants to face Pacquiao. Since Pac already beat Thurman, Crawford-Pacquiao makes more sense than Crawford-Thurman.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 03:06
by DrDuke
It's an OK matchup, but even Crawford-Pac sounds more interesting.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 12:55
by Onetimeonly
Thurman has nothing for bud.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 14:03
by gilgamesh
Any of the PBC guys are better than anyone he's gonna find otherwise.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 14:31
by KiwiRider
Have you guys noticed how aged the WW division is right now?
Have a quick peek:
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division= ... oxer&sex=M

Only a couple of blokes under 30 in the top 20 :o
Where are the hot young contenders?

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 14:34
by Paci
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:31 Have you guys noticed how aged the WW division is right now?
Have a quick peek:
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division= ... oxer&sex=M

Only a couple of blokes under 30 in the top 20 :o
Where are the hot young contenders?
Bad, bad...

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 14:45
by KiwiRider
Paci wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:34
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:31 Have you guys noticed how aged the WW division is right now?
Have a quick peek:
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division= ... oxer&sex=M

Only a couple of blokes under 30 in the top 20 :o
Where are the hot young contenders?
Bad, bad...
I know mate!
It snuck up on us over this year, covid inactivity on top of that as well.
I'm not saying eary 30's is past it, some guys peak around then, or adapt defensively.
Unfortunately the lighter weight guys can also fade, literally overnight.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 14:52
by skanksta
What can Bud do to make Spence fight him ?

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 15:27
by Paci
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:45
Paci wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:34
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:31 Have you guys noticed how aged the WW division is right now?
Have a quick peek:
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division= ... oxer&sex=M

Only a couple of blokes under 30 in the top 20 :o
Where are the hot young contenders?
Bad, bad...
I know mate!
It snuck up on us over this year, covid inactivity on top of that as well.
I'm not saying eary 30's is past it, some guys peak around then, or adapt defensively.
Unfortunately the lighter weight guys can also fade, literally overnight.
A lighter times will come they always do. :TU:

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 16:14
by Thomastearns
skanksta wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:52 What can Bud do to make Spence fight him ?

Sign the contract instead of holding out for every last dollar until he's 40.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 16:19
by KiwiRider
Thomastearns wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:14
skanksta wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:52 What can Bud do to make Spence fight him ?

Sign the contract instead of holding out for every last dollar until he's 40.
Bob will cark it before Bud gets to 40 :TU:
After all, he pulls the strings, and Crawford appears very loyal to him.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 16:57
by Onetimeonly
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:19
Thomastearns wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:14
skanksta wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:52 What can Bud do to make Spence fight him ?

Sign the contract instead of holding out for every last dollar until he's 40.
Bob will cark it before Bud gets to 40 :TU:
After all, he pulls the strings, and Crawford appears very loyal to him.
They're pissed at each other.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 18:18
by Paci
Onetimeonly wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:57
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:19
Thomastearns wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 16:14


Sign the contract instead of holding out for every last dollar until he's 40.
Bob will cark it before Bud gets to 40 :TU:
After all, he pulls the strings, and Crawford appears very loyal to him.
They're pissed at each other.
True enough. Great fight that is not made. But, they will only pay Crawford the good money or something.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 19:53
by siablo14
bobcatbox wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 23:05
siablo14 wrote: 16 Nov 2020, 20:59
Red - Nah. Spence and PBC won't even blink at Bud right now. They have options.
Fair point. It makes little sense for PBC to roll the dice on a Spence loss right now when they as a promotion have little to gain in the long-run if TC wins before he’s under their banner.
PBC would be helping Bud/Top Rank at this point in time. How does it make sense for them to do that?

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 20:31
by siablo14
skanksta wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:52 What can Bud do to make Spence fight him ?
Cross the street.

Maybe this marinating will go wrong like Wilder-Joshua.

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 22:33
by Best Coast
KiwiRider wrote: 17 Nov 2020, 14:31 Have you guys noticed how aged the WW division is right now?
Have a quick peek:
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?division= ... oxer&sex=M

Only a couple of blokes under 30 in the top 20 :o
Where are the hot young contenders?
No worries amigo. There are several young world-class WW prospects just outside the top 20 who only need a little more experience before they crack to top 10!!

VERGIL ORTIZ JR 16-0 (16-0) AGE 22 https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/7


JARON "BOOTS" ENNIS 26-0 (24) AGE 23 https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/756515


EIMANTAS STANIONAS 11-0 (8) AGE 26 https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/791796

Re: Crawford vs Thurman

Posted: 17 Nov 2020, 22:53
by bobcatbox
Boots Ennis kicks ass.