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"Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 09:06
by deadpan
Why do broadcasters quote a 'two inch reach advantage' as though it means that the fighter's arms are 2 inches longer than their opponent. It's one inch each arm. It infuriates me.

They should scrap reach stats and use arm length instead.

That's all. Enjoy your day.

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 10:18
by byobdylan
Are they even measured or just estimates?

I heard Carl Frampton say in his podcast that no one has ever measured his reach, for example.

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 11:04
by joshj909
Doesn't the measurement also measure across the chest? Some boxers have much wider chests than others so that 2 inches isn't even necessarily split between the two arms.

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 11:14
by Controversial
Most tale of the tapes are guesstimates anyway

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 11:59
by Boxing Prospect
byobdylan wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 10:18 Are they even measured or just estimates?

I heard Carl Frampton say in his podcast that no one has ever measured his reach, for example.
Can only talk about Japan, but measurements are taken over there as part of the medical before a world title fight

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 20:29
by goose 5
Yes and in japan the heights are measured with shoes on.

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 30 Nov 2020, 20:32
by margaret thatcher
deadpan wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 09:06 Why do broadcasters quote a 'two inch reach advantage' as though it means that the fighter's arms are 2 inches longer than their opponent. It's one inch each arm. It infuriates me.

They should scrap reach stats and use arm length instead.

That's all. Enjoy your day.
chest width contributes to how far you can hit someone from, so it should be accounted for, having broader shoulders/chest basically means your arm starts from further out

the dudes below have equal arm length but bottom dude with broader shoulders can hit you from further away


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Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 01 Dec 2020, 12:48
by Delta Jay
margaret thatcher wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 20:32
deadpan wrote: 30 Nov 2020, 09:06 Why do broadcasters quote a 'two inch reach advantage' as though it means that the fighter's arms are 2 inches longer than their opponent. It's one inch each arm. It infuriates me.

They should scrap reach stats and use arm length instead.

That's all. Enjoy your day.
chest width contributes to how far you can hit someone from, so it should be accounted for, having broader shoulders/chest basically means your arm starts from further out

the dudes below have equal arm length but bottom dude with broader shoulders can hit you from further away


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Was about to say this, but I could never have managed that diagram.

Wider shoulders means you can punch further. Simple really

Re: "Reach advantage"

Posted: 01 Dec 2020, 13:36
by Controversial
A lot of stats are exaggerated, fighters like to give the impressions they are bigger than they are. It would be interesting to see fighters properly measured though.