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Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:31
by Jimmy2020
Seeing that little tank on the march against 6'3" Smith last night has given me hope that an exciting shorter heavyweight could still come along one day and batter these 6'6"+ heavyweights who have been boring us silly for the best part of two decades. Would love to see a 6'0" - 6'2" ish killer on the loose, tearing up Joshua, Fury, etc...

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:37
by DrDuke
:lol:

Btw, Canelo isn't even 6'0'', but 5'8''.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:38
by Counter-puncher
Hmmm. Think of the number of fights Canelo has built up, has had to build up, to get to that level of skill and ring craft where the implicit disadvantages of his shorter frame can be mitigated. I don’t see anyone developing that level of skill in less that 40 fights, and I cant see anyone around that size being given/ giving themselves enough fights to build the skill and knowledge base. Cruiser-heavyweights don’t go pro at 15.

I don’t think Usyk is ‘that’ guy as the fighter you describe has to have impactful power punching as part of his armoury IMO, and I think the career trajectory you’re describing is on me that can only be developed with long pro experience (and may be hindered by too much AMA experience)

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:39
by Counter-puncher
Absent another physical freak like Tyson I’d love to see it but don’t hold out any hopes

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:41
by margaret thatcher
Height prob not as much as a factor as is the correlation that the taller hws are usually much naturally heavier/bigger built than the shorter guys. in lower weights that is controlled a bit through having weight limits....so instead of fighting 6'3 dorticos or luis ortiz fights 6'3 smith

and canelo obviously short but dude is a f@cking thick as hell tank

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:46
by margaret thatcher
the dudes in the history section have it that the ideal hw size is actually like 5'11 195 , lol I am still waiting for a guy like this to takeove :yay:

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:50
by Counter-puncher
‘Some’ dudes, maybe.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:51
by Wee Tommy
Jimmy2020 wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:31 Seeing that little tank on the march against 6'3" Smith last night has given me hope that an exciting shorter heavyweight could still come along one day and batter these 6'6"+ heavyweights who have been boring us silly for the best part of two decades. Would love to see a 6'0" - 6'2" ish killer on the loose, tearing up Joshua, Fury, etc...
Like Ruiz jnr? If he was in shape...

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:54
by Wee Tommy
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:46 the dudes in the history section have it that the ideal hw size is actually like 5'11 195 , lol I am still waiting for a guy like this to takeove :yay:
Some say Marciano could beat some of the big slow diddies around today, is that what you mean? Aside from that angle I’d say most posters over in that forum feel that Joe Louis/Ali size heavies are the ideal.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 07:55
by Ezzard
HW division is going well and has been for some time.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 08:01
by Jimmy2020
DrDuke wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:37 :lol:

Btw, Canelo isn't even 6'0'', but 5'8''.
You have missed the point. I don't mean Canelo.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 08:04
by Jimmy2020
Ezzard wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:55 HW division is going well and has been for some time.
It's boring.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 08:47
by mickey1975
Jimmy2020 wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 08:04
Ezzard wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:55 HW division is going well and has been for some time.
It's boring.
Fury-Josh will have the whole country coming to a standstill.
If it happens.....

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 08:52
by Jimmy2020
mickey1975 wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 08:47
Jimmy2020 wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 08:04
Ezzard wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 07:55 HW division is going well and has been for some time.
It's boring.
Fury-Josh will have the whole country coming to a standstill.
If it happens.....
I know it will but I don't care about the whole country. I care about what I find interesting. As you know, I rate Fury highly (but find him boring to watch), I also rate Joshua and Usyk. The rest of the division is pure garbage.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 09:00
by Verdi
Povetkin is the closest thing we have. All the up and comers seem massive generally though. The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Evgeny Romanov at 6ft, but he's way off the power levels of Tyson or Tua.

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 20 Dec 2020, 09:28
by Coco
In his pomp Toney prob should have won the title in a weak division, he destroyed Holyfield

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 21 Dec 2020, 00:44
by margaret thatcher
one thing i will say, if you;re a short guy,, just look at canelo for how to be a short dude who is also da man in life

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 21 Dec 2020, 01:31
by SticknMove
margaret thatcher wrote: 21 Dec 2020, 00:44 one thing i will say, if you;re a short guy,, just look at canelo for how to be a short dude who is also da man in life
Poor Canelo, a short guy who's da man in boxing needing more bully beef,

Re: Canelo gives me hope for the heavyweight division

Posted: 21 Dec 2020, 01:53
by TheLeprechaun
Canelo really took the loss to Mayweather well. He needed that fight to develop into the fighter he is today.