The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Caltaghe (2007) ?

Canelo,definitely
5
11%
Canelo, likely
7
16%
Too close to call
1
2%
Calzaghe, likely
22
50%
Calzaghe, definitely
9
20%
 
Total votes: 44

ValMar
Welterweight
Posts: 4149
Joined: 07 Nov 2015, 14:24

The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by ValMar »

At SMW, of course.
What do you think ?
Why ?
Boxerbeetle
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 32704
Joined: 19 Sep 2011, 10:59

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Calzaghe (likely). Would never say definitely in boxing, but I’d be confident it would be a near re-run of the Lacy fight, style is all wrong for Canelo.
Noxy
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6824
Joined: 02 Jun 2013, 10:57

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Noxy »

Calzaghe, his style was wrong for just about anyone. I think peak Jones beats Joe at SMW. I can’t think of anyone else who, to me, beats Joe at SMW.
DrDuke
Lightweight
Posts: 13873
Joined: 29 Nov 2017, 09:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by DrDuke »

Calzaghe was good, but he was better offensively than defensively, lacked power and was floored on several occasions. So, he could be outworking Canelo, like many did, but he won't tag Canelo too much and definitely he wouldn't hurt granite-chinned Canelo, while Joe's solid punch output would leave a lot of openings for the great counter-puncher in Canelo.

Canelo by dec or late stoppage.
brilo33
Middleweight
Posts: 7865
Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 16:05

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by brilo33 »

joe calzaghe had what it would take too stop saul, he can punch hard fast and in combos not just one, big can move has a chin and has boxing smarts , but this isnt a if i tossed a coin joe wins everytime , nah its a 60/40 the joe that beat kessler
oogiebe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 32990
Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 19:35

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by oogiebe »

DrDuke wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 11:10 Calzaghe was good, but he was better offensively than defensively, lacked power and was floored on several occasions. So, he could be outworking Canelo, like many did, but he won't tag Canelo too much and definitely he wouldn't hurt granite-chinned Canelo, while Joe's solid punch output would leave a lot of openings for the great counter-puncher in Canelo.

Canelo by dec or late stoppage.
While tough to call, I think I'll SLIGHTLY lean in favor of Duke's assessment.
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Calzaghe throws too many punches and is too active for someone who fights like canelo.

Calzaghe would have a speed advantage too too
brilo33
Middleweight
Posts: 7865
Joined: 07 Mar 2014, 16:05

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by brilo33 »

DrDuke wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 11:10 Calzaghe was good, but he was better offensively than defensively, lacked power and was floored on several occasions. So, he could be outworking Canelo, like many did, but he won't tag Canelo too much and definitely he wouldn't hurt granite-chinned Canelo, while Joe's solid punch output would leave a lot of openings for the great counter-puncher in Canelo.

Canelo by dec or late stoppage.
dont agree duke and i didnt like joe as person so iaint a fan boy, but joe was spitefulll puncher.he bust his hands up a lot , kesseler is a tough bloke and joe hurt him, joe was natural to the weight his hands were quick, his defensive was solid he could move and trade aswell , a great match up though , man i would of loved to have seen my favorite fighters fight froch v canelo
Onetimeonly
Super Featherweight
Posts: 11584
Joined: 16 Oct 2018, 06:28

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Onetimeonly »

Joe by Dec.
squiggy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 2094
Joined: 04 Feb 2008, 03:35

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by squiggy »

Noxy wrote: 20 Dec 2020, 10:54 Calzaghe, his style was wrong for just about anyone. I think peak Jones beats Joe at SMW. I can’t think of anyone else who, to me, beats Joe at SMW.
I agree.
squiggy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 2094
Joined: 04 Feb 2008, 03:35

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by squiggy »

In fact I wouldn't even favor prime RJJ. I think Joe was the best that division's ever seen.
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Is Canelo better than Mikkel Kessler, Robin Reid or the 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins?

Does Calzaghe’s reputation match the calibre of his resume?

And what I mean is this, was Jeff Lacy as good as advertised and did Joe really beat the prime iterations of Eubank Sr., Jones Jr. and Hopkins?

Methinks that Calzaghe was another GGG, Luis Ortiz or Terence Crawford... and the point I’m conveying is rather obvious, whereby the reputation and hype clearly overshadows their actual accomplishments inside the ring.

Some fighters are simply very popular, even if the calibre of opposition they face is usually lacklustre.

Calzaghe was decked by Mitchell, Salem, Jones Jr. and Hopkins. I haven’t checked all his fights, but the badly faded Eubank Jr. briefly stunned him too.

Do people think that Canelo can’t hurt Calzaghe?
oogiebe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 32990
Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 19:35

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by oogiebe »

Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 21:49 Is Canelo better than Mikkel Kessler, Robin Reid or the 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins?

Does Calzaghe’s reputation match the calibre of his resume?

And what I mean is this, was Jeff Lacy as good as advertised and did Joe really beat the prime iterations of Eubank Sr., Jones Jr. and Hopkins?

Methinks that Calzaghe was another GGG, Luis Ortiz or Terence Crawford... and the point I’m conveying is rather obvious, whereby the reputation and hype clearly overshadows their actual accomplishments inside the ring.

Some fighters are simply very popular, even if the calibre of opposition they face is usually lacklustre.

Calzaghe was decked by Mitchell, Salem, Jones Jr. and Hopkins. I haven’t checked all his fights, but the badly faded Eubank Jr. briefly stunned him too.

Do people think that Canelo can’t hurt Calzaghe?
Did GGG rape your dog or something?
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

He raped a ring mag #6 contender last week
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

oogiebe wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 22:04
Enlightened-One wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 21:49 Is Canelo better than Mikkel Kessler, Robin Reid or the 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins?

Does Calzaghe’s reputation match the calibre of his resume?

And what I mean is this, was Jeff Lacy as good as advertised and did Joe really beat the prime iterations of Eubank Sr., Jones Jr. and Hopkins?

Methinks that Calzaghe was another GGG, Luis Ortiz or Terence Crawford... and the point I’m conveying is rather obvious, whereby the reputation and hype clearly overshadows their actual accomplishments inside the ring.

Some fighters are simply very popular, even if the calibre of opposition they face is usually lacklustre.

Calzaghe was decked by Mitchell, Salem, Jones Jr. and Hopkins. I haven’t checked all his fights, but the badly faded Eubank Jr. briefly stunned him too.

Do people think that Canelo can’t hurt Calzaghe?
Did GGG rape your dog or something?
I like GGG.

I don’t like his die-hard fans that are blinded by reality.

And I hate the fact his career was mismanaged.

Finally, I hate the fact he now chooses to play things safe, whilst waiting for the Canelo mega-payday.
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Is Canelo better than Mikkel Kessler, Robin Reid or the 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins?

Does Calzaghe’s reputation match the calibre of his resume?

And what I mean is this, was Jeff Lacy as good as advertised and did Joe really beat the prime iterations of Eubank Sr., Jones Jr. and Hopkins?

Methinks that Calzaghe was another GGG, Luis Ortiz or Terence Crawford... and the point I’m conveying is rather obvious, whereby the reputation and hype clearly overshadows their actual accomplishments inside the ring.

Some fighters are simply very popular, even if the calibre of opposition they face is usually lacklustre.

Calzaghe was decked by Mitchell, Salem, Jones Jr. and Hopkins. I haven’t checked all his fights, but the badly faded Eubank Jr. briefly stunned him too.

Do people think that Canelo can’t hurt Calzaghe?

And finally, did Calzaghe duck Carl Froch, despite being offered millions of dollars?
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Who accomplished more at 168 kessler or canelo?
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Who has canelo beat who kessler couldn't beat? Austin trout?
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Who was better the hopkins calzaghe beat or the kovalev canelo beat?
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Out of the 24 rounds canelo fought with overrated 160 lb cherry picker GGG how many rounds did canelo clearly win?
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 22:12 Who accomplished more at 168 kessler or canelo?
Does your question relate to the topic of this thread?

Who is more accomplished at 175lbs and 160lbs and 154lbs, Canelo or Kessler?

Has Kessler ever beaten the top-dog at 168lbs?

And forget about title defences, belts won etc., because we’re talking about what would happen inside the ring.

Do you think Kessler would beat Canelo at 168lbs?
Enlightened-One
Super Lightweight
Posts: 14618
Joined: 19 Jul 2016, 05:12

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

Is Canelo better than Mikkel Kessler, Robin Reid or the 43-year-old Bernard Hopkins?

Does Calzaghe’s reputation match the calibre of his resume?

And what I mean is this, was Jeff Lacy as good as advertised and did Joe really beat the prime iterations of Eubank Sr., Jones Jr. and Hopkins?

Methinks that Calzaghe was another GGG, Luis Ortiz or Terence Crawford... and the point I’m conveying is rather obvious, whereby the reputation and hype clearly overshadows their actual accomplishments inside the ring.

Some fighters are simply very popular, even if the calibre of opposition they face is usually lacklustre.

Calzaghe was decked by Mitchell, Salem, Jones Jr. and Hopkins. I haven’t checked all his fights, but the badly faded Eubank Sr. briefly stunned him too.

Do people think that Canelo can’t hurt Calzaghe?

And finally, did Calzaghe duck Carl Froch, despite being offered millions of dollars?
oogiebe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 32990
Joined: 01 Jul 2012, 19:35

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by oogiebe »

Dude's posting in triplicate.
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

Canelo is more accomplished at 160 than fighters who never fought there

Clearly hed beat tyson fury
Jeff_lacy_ko
Super Featherweight
Posts: 5711
Joined: 06 Sep 2018, 14:15

Re: The fantasy fight - Canelo (2020) vs. Calzaghe (2007) ?

Post by Jeff_lacy_ko »

oogiebe wrote: 23 Dec 2020, 22:24 Dude's posting in triplicate.
GGG broke him last week. Hes a shot poster
Post Reply