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Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 11:55
by Controversial
I was just looking at Alan Minters record and out of his 9 losses, 7 were stopped due to cuts. On a few of these defeats it is noted Minter was ahead on the scorecards at the time.
Does Minter hold the record or someone else?
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:01
by oogiebe
Sir Henry has to be up there.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:30
by JC
Seven times is crazy.
Wepner is the other obvious one. Not sure he was stopped as many times on cuts as Minter though.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:41
by oogiebe
Ron Stander?
Jerry Quarry?
I'm sure without looking that they both were stopped on cuts plenty.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:43
by bwu
He doesn’t match for numbers, but three of Jose Napoles’ seven losses were on cuts. He lost both of his welter titles that way and was probably lucky not to lose the first fight with Armando Muniz on cuts.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:50
by Controversial
oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:41
Ron Stander?
Jerry Quarry?
I'm sure without looking that they both were stopped on cuts plenty.
Quarry was only stopped 6 times in total (cut or no cut) so wouldn't be as many as Minter.
Stander was stopped 10 times in total, not sure how many were on cuts though?
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 12:59
by oogiebe
Controversial wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:50
oogiebe wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:41
Ron Stander?
Jerry Quarry?
I'm sure without looking that they both were stopped on cuts plenty.
Quarry was only stopped 6 times in total (cut or no cut) so wouldn't be as many as Minter.
Stander was stopped 10 times in total, not sure how many were on cuts though?
Hard to imagine being stopped on cuts while ahead on the cards so much as Minter though.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 13:13
by AntonioMartin
Alan Minter
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 14:36
by Matt
Bobby Jackson (Cecil Romero) a lightweight boxer of main event caliber in Southern California during the 1940s, was stopped on cuts in his first eight stoppage losses.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 15:13
by Controversial
Matt wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 14:36
Bobby Jackson (Cecil Romero) a lightweight boxer of main event caliber in Southern California during the 1940s, was stopped on cuts in his first eight stoppage losses.
Nice one, good find Matt
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/58673
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 16:02
by Caractacus
Vito Antuofermo used to cut a lot from what I remember.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 16:06
by Matt
The Hogue brothers of California in the 1940s, were both bleeders. Big Boy Hogue has at least five cut stoppages. Cuts also played a part in several of their other stoppages.
Earl Turner who was a big draw in Oakland during the 1940s also had at least five cuts stoppages, Turner also had a bad chin; though Turner had a lot of heart and talent as well.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 16:16
by DrDuke
J-C wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:30
Wepner is the other obvious one. Not sure he was stopped as many times on cuts as Minter though.
Not as many. Anyway, he had 3 lost on cuts fights in a row in 70-71.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 16:27
by Matt
Frankie Monroe, a busy club fighter from Lakeview, Oregon who I've entered many bouts for, had six cuts stoppages, which account for all of his recorded stoppage losses.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/90822
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 18:51
by Crease
Henry Cooper used to get sliced up to bits in long fights...
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 17 Mar 2021, 18:54
by Crease
From local Irish fighters,
I remember watching Jamie Conlan and more than a few times he came out of his fights all bloodied up...
I would also add Paul McCloskey to that... I remember his face after a couple of his fights....
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 18 Mar 2021, 08:25
by Controversial
J-C wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:30
Seven times is crazy.
It is, especially when cuts were the reason in his first 7 defeats, only his last two defeats were not cut related.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 18 Mar 2021, 09:58
by scartissue
Crease wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 18:51
Henry Cooper used to get sliced up to bits in long fights...
Surprisingly, Cooper wasn't stopped on cuts as many times as I would have thought. Of his 8 stoppages, only Ali (twice) and Peter Bates seemed to have stopped him on cuts. There was an earlier stoppage to one Ulber Bacilleri, but can't be sure if it was cuts or if he was being battered. It was early in his career. The other 4 were KOs to Patterson, Folley, Johannson and Bygraves.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 18 Mar 2021, 10:33
by Controversial
scartissue wrote: ↑18 Mar 2021, 09:58
Crease wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 18:51
Henry Cooper used to get sliced up to bits in long fights...
Surprisingly, Cooper wasn't stopped on cuts as many times as I would have thought. Of his 8 stoppages, only Ali (twice) and Peter Bates seemed to have stopped him on cuts. There was an earlier stoppage to one Ulber Bacilleri, but can't be sure if it was cuts or if he was being battered. It was early in his career. The other 4 were KOs to Patterson, Folley, Johannson and Bygraves.
Yep, I think he just marked up easily, he looked battered after Bugner defeat and may have won some fights with cuts so maybe seems he lost more that way.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 18 Mar 2021, 12:52
by locoxelbox
Swedish light heavyweight Roland Ericsson, who had seven losses, was stopped by cuts in six of them.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/31528
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 19:31
by zuru
Sean O'Grady had a lot of trouble with cuts
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 30 Mar 2021, 20:24
by Onetimeonly
I remember seeing Lupe pintor losing a couple of nontitle fights on cuts in the ring mag when he was champion.
Re: Which fighter lost the most fights due to cuts?
Posted: 31 Mar 2021, 11:24
by chrisjs1985
bwu wrote: ↑17 Mar 2021, 12:43
He doesn’t match for numbers, but three of Jose Napoles’ seven losses were on cuts. He lost both of his welter titles that way and was probably lucky not to lose the first fight with Armando Muniz on cuts.
His defeat to LC Morgan was also on cuts.