Canelo states the obvious on 44-yr-old retired grandpa Floyd Mayweather

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Canelo states the obvious on 44-yr-old retired grandpa Floyd Mayweather

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"Canelo states the obvious on 44-yr-old retired grandpa Floyd Mayweather"

Current pound-for-pound king Canelo Alvarez stated the obvious when discussing a potential rematch with 44-year-old retired grandpa Floyd Mayweather.

Canelo, who lost versus Mayweather eight years ago on his way to the top, had previously taken his reverse as a learning curve.

Talking about learning from his bouts recently, he said: “Every single one (fight has taught me something).

“Every single one has taught me something, given me the experience, the maturity, and made me the fighter that I am today. I learned from every single fight.

“I want to be remembered as one the greats in boxing, and that’s why I continue to work hard and continue taking on these types of fights, so I can continue writing history.”

But now, Canelo wants to make sure everybody knows that a Mayweather fight would be different now. “I would definitely beat him today,” Canelo told Univision. “It would be a very different fight.

“I am a more mature fighter. I have more experience, and I learned a lot. That loss left me a lot.

“After losing, I promised to become the best, and I achieved it. At that moment, the loss hurt me a lot because I wanted to win, but only God knows why he does the things he does.”

Canelo fails to realize that any fighter could say this about any other retired legend. He’d beat Floyd Mayweather with ease now, especially with their weight differential.

An example would be George Foreman is 72-years-old. Anthony Joshua could say he’d beat him now. That doesn’t mean in his prime he could.

Mayweather was one of the greats. Canelo will be in that same class. However, he lost to Floyd and has to take that loss for what it was.

‘Money’ did Canelo a favor just by giving him the opportunity. Eventually, Canelo has taken a leaf out of Floyd’s book by modeling his career on an event-by-event basis.

Taking home paychecks in the region of $36.5 million helps too.

The Mexican superstar should focus on his upcoming fight with Billy Joe Saunders, which is no walk in the park for him. Leave Floyd Mayweather to the exhibitionists.


Thoughts? :confused:
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For the record, Floyd Mayweather Jr. is a 44-year-old, is retired, a grandfather, who’s optimal fighting weight was 130lbs and hasn’t engaged in a genuine boxing event for 5½ years.

In stark contrast, Canelo is at his physical prime, 14 years younger, currently considered the very best pound-for-pounder on the planet and has also recently defeated a top-three rated 175lb-er (with Krusher considered a dead-cert first-ballot future Hall-of-Famer).

And let's not forget the fact that when Canelo suffered his embarrassingly one-sided defeat to Floyd Mayweather Jr., the Mexican was unbeaten (with a 42-0-1 record), had been a world champion for almost three years, had competed in the pro ranks for eight years and also had eight world title bouts under his belt.

Immediately prior to the Money May fight, Canelo had previously defeated several world champions (i.e. Miguel Vazquez (twice), Carlos Manuel Baldomir, Lovemore N'dou, Kermit Cintron, Shane Mosley & Austin Trout) and was also regarded (at the time by ESPN & The RING) as the very best fighter the 154lbs weight division had to offer, coupled with having previously headlined several PPV events.

To put Canelo’s pre-Mayweather resume stats into perspective, based on BoxRec’s current top-fifty pound-for-pound ratings, only Deontay Wilder and Roman Gonzalez have competed in more than 43 pro bouts and also engaged in more than eight world title fights.

And within a year of the Mayweather loss, Canelo officially became a member of the mythical top-ten pound-for-pound elite (as per The RING).
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Writing a novel to illustrate why Canelo would beat a 44 year old Floyd now?

Some might argue that’s not necessary
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Maybe Canelo's a little self conscious about how a lot of the HOF bound fighters who fought Floyd managed to have a moment or two of looking good, but Canelo was dominated by him ceaselessly like he was a Carlos Baldomir calibre fighter.
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 15 Apr 2021, 10:44 Writing a novel to illustrate...
It’s more of a pre-emptive strike to discourage anyone from dishonestly attempting to undermine Mayweather’s victory over Canelo, by pretending the Mexican was simply an inexperienced “baby”, rather than being a highly-experienced/accomplished fringe top-ten pound-for-pounder that suffered a terribly one-sided loss to a naturally smaller man.

Canelo's most recent claim about him beating the 44-year-old retired iteration of Money May seem bizarre to the point he's portraying himself as being preposterously bitter and twisted.
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Wtf examine your life choices
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he lost to golovkin twice too. back 2 back.
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considering floyd can barely read, canelo may have an English advantage on him too
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When Canelo says he can beat him now, he's referring to a prime Mayweather. Not the 44-year-old version.
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Gimp Mask wrote: 15 Apr 2021, 20:43 When Canelo says he can beat him now, he's referring to a prime Mayweather. Not the 44-year-old version.
exactamento.
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adislav123 wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:08
Gimp Mask wrote: 15 Apr 2021, 20:43 When Canelo says he can beat him now, he's referring to a prime Mayweather. Not the 44-year-old version.
exactamento.
on a prime mayweather he now would've close to 40 pounds more around his skeleton. PURE MUSCLE THAT!!!.

the face of boxing is quite a beefed up little mofo.
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The canelo floyd beat was on par with austin trout and lara

Very good fighters but not hall of fame talents

Canelo now is an in prime hof talent super middleweight.

Floyd of yeateryear wouldnt fight him they are in different weight classes entirely
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:16 The canelo floyd beat was on par with austin trout and lara

Very good fighters but not hall of fame talents

Canelo now is an in prime hof talent super middleweight.

Floyd of yeateryear wouldnt fight him they are in different weight classes entirely
If Floyd had fought the Middleweight Canelo who faced off with GGG. He'd have beaten him. Probably not in an as one sided a fashion, but he'd have beat him.
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gilgamesh wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:30
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:16 The canelo floyd beat was on par with austin trout and lara

Very good fighters but not hall of fame talents

Canelo now is an in prime hof talent super middleweight.

Floyd of yeateryear wouldnt fight him they are in different weight classes entirely
If Floyd had fought the Middleweight Canelo who faced off with GGG. He'd have beaten him. Probably not in an as one sided a fashion, but he'd have beat him.
Floyd was a master at putting himself in the optimal position to win before the fight

I dont think he would have faced a canelo who would be that big and frankly that good.
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Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 13:59
gilgamesh wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:30
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 16 Apr 2021, 12:16 The canelo floyd beat was on par with austin trout and lara

Very good fighters but not hall of fame talents

Canelo now is an in prime hof talent super middleweight.

Floyd of yeateryear wouldnt fight him they are in different weight classes entirely
If Floyd had fought the Middleweight Canelo who faced off with GGG. He'd have beaten him. Probably not in an as one sided a fashion, but he'd have beat him.
Floyd was a master at putting himself in the optimal position to win before the fight

I dont think he would have faced a canelo who would be that big and frankly that good.
Maybe not.
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i think saul 28 year old would of beat floyd at 28 years old , but wheres the time machine
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Of course prime Canelo beats prime Floyd - he'd be 40lbs heavier !
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A 36 yr old past prime Floyd schooled a young but experienced Canelo who had 40+ wins if I remember right. Enough said.
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ya, i think we can all agree that canelo's prime was actually 8 years ago, when he was regularly fighting much tougher opposition than he is now - guys like matt hatton, kermit the frog, with by far his biggest challenge coming against a fish. he's actually less experienced now than he was back then, i dont know what happened to him tbh :maybe:
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Bandog wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 06:04 A 36 yr old past prime Floyd schooled a young but experienced Canelo who had 40+ wins if I remember right. Enough said.
not quite enough said, you still have to remind us that terrance crawford lost amateur fights, that andrade is your saviour, that you just love manny pacquiao so much, and that you want to ban all ped cheats except when luis ortiz sticks a needle in his arse :TU:
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 06:37 ya, i think we can all agree that canelo's prime was actually 8 years ago, when he was regularly fighting much tougher opposition than he is now - guys like matt hatton, kermit the frog, with by far his biggest challenge coming against a fish. he's actually less experienced now than he was back then, i dont know what happened to him tbh :maybe:
I mean nobody said Canelo was in his absolute prime, but Mayweather certainly wasn't at his very best anymore by that point, and he won every single round against him.

Canelo was unbeaten. The bigger guy. The stronger guy. He just wasn't as good as Floyd.

It was Pre-Prime vs Past Prime. Generally throughout history the Pre-Prime guy will be better off in that situation. In this case he couldn't even win a round.
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im just f@cking around with our boi banny bruh
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margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 15:34 im just f@cking around with our boi banny bruh
Why don't you just talk boxing instead of trying to antagonize folks like me? WTF You are irritating AF. No wonder this site has much less posters than years past. The only one that thinks you are funny is you. Everyone else I am guessing thinking you are a level below EO, who at least tries to make intelligent posts.You remind me of folks that were never raised right, and taught to respect others. But hey, carry on duffus.
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Bandog wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 18:39
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Apr 2021, 15:34 im just f@cking around with our boi banny bruh
Why don't you just talk boxing instead of trying to antagonize folks like me? WTF You are irritating AF. No wonder this site has much less posters than years past. The only one that thinks you are funny is you. Everyone else I am guessing thinking you are a level below EO, who at least tries to make intelligent posts.You remind me of folks that were never raised right, and taught to respect others. But hey, carry on duffus.
:lol:
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How would he not beat him today?

They fought to a draw 7 years ago, of course he'd win a rematch now!

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