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If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 08:56
by nobleart1978
If Benn had fought Herol Graham in 1990 with the WBO middleweight title on the line, how do you see it panning out.
Super elusive Herol against wild heavy hitting Benn.
Would have been a big event I reckon. Too many great fights were never made...
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 09:15
by Noxy
Graham, he was all wrong for Nigel.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 15:59
by MasterG
For me Benn was possibly too strong. The fight could have ended with one big hit from Benn. However, if Graham could have frustrated Benn by keeping it distance he could have beaten him on points. 12 rounds is a long fight to keep it at distance without making any errors.
I feel Benn would have caught him at some point.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:05
by coghaugen11
Graham was a small hall fighter who’d been around since the 70s waiting around. Benn and his whole team would need to be drugged for him to face Graham, a £10,000 fighter (McCallum purse) to Benn’s projected £1M v Eubank or $5M v Leonard.
Graham stands him on his head.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:08
by mickey1975
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:05
Graham was a small hall fighter who’d been around since the 70s waiting around. Benn and his whole team would need to be drugged for him to face Graham, a £10,000 fighter (McCallum purse) to Benn’s projected £1M v Eubank or $5M v Leonard.
Graham stands him on his head.
He’d had a stadium fight....
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:10
by coghaugen11
Graham was the best in the business over four or five rounds - McCallum was struggling to lay a glove on him for the first half of fight. He then somehow got really sloppy though down the stretch, falling about and doing wrestling flips. It’s like he lacked stamina in his big legs.
Certainly a 22yo cocky Eubank didn’t lay a glove on him in their four-rounders in the gym. Then Ron Essett would get in and start landing after a few rounds, with the jab especially. Then the last four rounds a fresh Slugger O’Toole would body spar him. Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Eubank and O’Toole had good work together on Tuesdays and Thursdays, Eubank always chasing.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:11
by coghaugen11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:08
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:05
Graham was a small hall fighter who’d been around since the 70s waiting around. Benn and his whole team would need to be drugged for him to face Graham, a £10,000 fighter (McCallum purse) to Benn’s projected £1M v Eubank or $5M v Leonard.
Graham stands him on his head.
He’d had a stadium fight....
Mate there were about 2,000 at Bramall Lane that afternoon
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:13
by coghaugen11
Benn, Eubank and Watson were ‘go-getters’.
Graham wasn’t.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 16:18
by Stobbo
Nigel is one of my all time favourite fighters...
But Graham would have stopped him late
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 18:12
by dr_devious
Graham would have been all wrong for Eubank and would have shut him out. I reckon Benn might have been able to catch up with him though with his aggressive and sometimes swarming style.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 20 Apr 2021, 18:42
by THEBUTCH
The smart money says Graham would have completely outfoxed Benn, but if just one haymaker landed.....
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 01:49
by bennie
I go for Benn. Graham never won a really big fight.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 02:29
by Steveh583
theres this sort of myth thats developed of herol being more fragile that he really was cos of the julian jackson KO.
personally tho, i think graham finds a way to lose.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 03:16
by Switch hitter
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:08
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:05
Graham was a small hall fighter who’d been around since the 70s waiting around. Benn and his whole team would need to be drugged for him to face Graham, a £10,000 fighter (McCallum purse) to Benn’s projected £1M v Eubank or $5M v Leonard.
Graham stands him on his head.
He’d had a stadium fight....
Mate there were about 2,000 at Bramall Lane that afternoon
There was loads more than that. He boxed at Wembley arena a few times outdoors in Vegas too
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 04:01
by coghaugen11
Undercards
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 04:03
by coghaugen11
Too good for his own good but mind numbingly boring so even beyond a casual (real boxing fan) really didn’t want to go see a tap dancer touching and moving and dodging
It was a shit combination, hence needing 10 years and 40-45 fights before a title shot
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:02
by Switch hitter
Not against Kaylor or Douglas......
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:06
by coghaugen11
Switch hitter wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 05:02
Not against Kaylor or Douglas......
Exciting well known, ticket selling opponents.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:16
by Pugilist-specialist
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:11
mickey1975 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:08
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2021, 16:05
Graham was a small hall fighter who’d been around since the 70s waiting around. Benn and his whole team would need to be drugged for him to face Graham, a £10,000 fighter (McCallum purse) to Benn’s projected £1M v Eubank or $5M v Leonard.
Graham stands him on his head.
He’d had a stadium fight....
Mate there were about 2,000 at Bramall Lane that afternoon
Not true.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:18
by coghaugen11
Unless they were hiding under the seats it certainly looked it.
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:23
by coghaugen11
At Old Trafford in ‘93 the security was totally inadequate - guys were smashing through the turnstiles without tickets and standing in the gangways for the main event! Even when the police arrived they seemed unable to dislodge all of them, having successfully dispersed of touts outside. And punters in very expensive seats had to stand to get a view of some of the rounds. Those were dark days, dark brilliant fantastic times
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:35
by Switch hitter
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 05:06
Switch hitter wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 05:02
Not against Kaylor or Douglas......
Exciting well known, ticket selling opponents.
But nevertheless topping the bill in an arena. Graham was brilliant against Douglas that night which probably is a more comparable fight than any other regarding Benn
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:44
by coghaugen11
Douglas was a novice pro in way over his head
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:47
by Coco
If Julian Jackson can get to Graham so could have Benn
Re: If Benn had fought Graham in 1990
Posted: 21 Apr 2021, 05:48
by coghaugen11
Coco wrote: ↑21 Apr 2021, 05:47
If Julian Jackson can get to Graham so could have Benn
He didn’t. Graham walked himself onto it with his hands down.