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FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:20
by Crease
Yep, you guessed it... It's that time of the year again that everyone hates and dreads... COMMISH'S CHOICE
So, sit back, relax and watch the carnage unfold....
This card will be run within the next seven days or so.
WORLD TITLE NEWS
ALEXIS ARGUELLO MAY DEFEND HIS WBC TITLE AGAINST A FIGHTER RANKED IN THE TOP 20 WHO IS NOT COMING OFF A LOSS.
(CPU OPPOSITION IS DISCOURAGED AND FROWNED UPON)
SANDY SADDLER MAY DEFEND HIS WBA TITLE AGAINST A FIGHTER RANKED IN THE TOP 20 WHO IS NOT COMING OFF A LOSS.
(CPU OPPOSITION IS DISCOURAGED AND FROWNED UPON)
VICENTE SALDIVAR MUST DEFEND HIS WBO TITLE AGAINST A FIGHTER RANKED IN THE TOP 20 WHO IS NOT COMING OFF A LOSS.
(CPU OPPOSITION IS DISCOURAGED AND FROWNED UPON)
NASEEM HAMED MAY DEFEND HIS IBF TITLE AGAINST A FIGHTER RANKED IN THE TOP 20 WHO IS NOT COMING OFF A LOSS.
(CPU OPPOSITION IS DISCOURAGED AND FROWNED UPON)
ABE ATTELL MAY DEFEND HIS IBO TITLE AGAINST ANY MANAGED OPPONENT THAT HE SEES FIT.
(CPU OPPOSITION IS DISCOURAGED AND FROWNED UPON)
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UNMATCHED FIGHTERS
None.
ARRANGED FIGHTS
WBC World Featherweight Championship
DRDUKE VS ARMAGETO
ALEXIS ARGUELLO VS HENRY ARMSTRONG
WBA World Featherweight Championship (12 Rounder)
P4P1 VS BOXBUZZ
SANDY SADDLER VS JEM DRISCOLL
WBO World Featherweight Championship (12 Rounder)
NOSCOUTINGREPORTS VS CREASE
VICENTE SALDIVAR VS EUSEBIO PEDROZA
IBF World Featherweight Championship (12 Rounder)
KEVO VS KEVO
NASEEM HAMED VS SUGAR RAMOS
Vacant IBO Featherweight title (12 Rounder)
BOXBUZZ VS HYACINTHUSTURNIPSEED
BOBBY CHACON VS SALVADOR SANCHEZ
CREASE VS TECHNO89
AZUMAH NELSON VS ABE ATTELL
P4P1 VS TECHNO89
JOHNNY KILBANE VS EDER JOFRE
DRDUKE
FREDDIE MILLER VS JIM CHEESE
NO SCOUTINGREPORTS
JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ VS BEN JORDAN
ARMAGETO
KID CHOCOLATE VS RAUL ROJAS
GILGAMESH
WILLIE PEP VS BERNARD DUNNE
GILGAMESH
ERIK MORALES VS HUMBERTO SOTO
HYACINTHUSTURNIPSEED? (WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION FROM THE OTC)
TERRY MCGOVERN VS TEDDY DAVIS
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:22
by Crease
38 pts Alexis Arguello WBC Champ
36 pts X Jem Driscoll
31 pts X Sandy Saddler WBA Champ
31 pts XX Henry Armstrong
30 pts Azumah Nelson
29 pts X Abe Attell
29 pts X Willie Pep
28 pts XX Vicente Saldivar WBO Champ
28 pts X Sugar Ramos
27.5 pts Eder Jofre
25 pts Naseem Hamed IBF Champ
22 pts X Bobby Chacon
21 pts Salvador Sanchez
19.5 pts X Erik Morales
19 pts Eusebio Pedroza
18.5 pts X Terry McGovern
16.5 pts XX Johnny Kilbane
16 pts X Freddie Miller
14 pts XX Juan Manuel Marquez
13 pts XX Kid Chocolate
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:24
by Crease
Managers may make suggestions and recommendations, trash talk and call outs...
Everything will be taken in to consideration...
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:44
by DrDuke
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
The Killer Miller has just been in the prolonged roll against the managed fighters and, unfortunately, suffered two losses in the last fights. So, now he needs some cheese.
Freddie Miller vs Jim Cheese, let's get it on.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 04:45
by NoScoutingReports
Juan Manuel Marquez will take on the boogeyman of the featherweight division, Ben Jordan.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 07:47
by kevo
Hamed holds a controversial decision win over Kid Chocolate, so how 'bout they have a rematch for the title?
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 08:11
by DrDuke
kevo wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 07:47
Hamed holds a controversial decision win over Kid Chocolate, so how 'bout they have a rematch for the title?
Chocolate is out of top 20.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 08:12
by kevo
That motherfucker
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 08:13
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
McGovern accepts. Should be a good one.
Sanchez makes himself available to any of the other champions.
Sandy Saddler
WBA Champ
Vicente Saldivar
WBO Champ
Naseem Hamed
IBF Champ
Or else he calls out
BoxBuzz's Bobby Chacon. (I'll come up with a CPU back-up a bit later)
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 08:13
by kevo
Hamed vs Sugar Ramos. Sign the damned fight.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 09:16
by NoScoutingReports
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
McGovern accepts. Should be a good one.
Sanchez makes himself available to any of the other champions.
Sandy Saddler
WBA Champ
Vicente Saldivar
WBO Champ
Naseem Hamed
IBF Champ
Or else he calls out
BoxBuzz's Bobby Chacon. (I'll come up with a CPU back-up a bit later)
Happy for Saldivar to take on Sanchez
kevo wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
Hamed vs Sugar Ramos. Sign the damned fight.
Isn't Ramos coming off a defeat Kevo?
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:23
by armageto
kevo wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:12
That motherfucker

Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:24
by BoxBuzz
For this week and this week only I will be taking into account all Title requests and potential agreements and possibly over riding such input as a sanctioning body might. This is not to thwart, or take any fun out of the game, but to offer opportunity, and to mimic the bullshit that sanctioning bodies often engage in....sometimes for good and sometimes for corrupt purposes. The typical rules will not apply.
For this week..:
the rule that a "recent loss disqualifies you for a title " will be waived. SO.....If a very top rated fighter suffered a loss last week, this will not disqualify him for a shot.
The top point gatherers without titles from both lists will be given much leeway to compete.
IF A CHALLENGER DOES NOT WISH TO FIGHT FOR A TITLE>>>YOU WILL NOT BE BROUGHT IN CHAINS TO DO SO. I will post the mandatory fights....and you will be given time to back out if you wish. I won't go forward without approval from all camps.
I will post a note "Approved by both camps" as camps make their decisions.
However A CHAMPION CAN NOT REFUSE A MANDATORY UNLESS HE RELINQUISHES HIS TITLE.
I'm attempting to allow managers to decide their own fate...AND at the same time allowing opportunity for most.
This plan has it's flaws, just as fine leather does. Leather is good stuff and it has flaws ......Naugahyde is close to perfect...and it sucks.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:30
by armageto
Armstrong wants to get hopefully get revenge for his stablemate and will like to take on Ben Jordan. If that isn't feasible, he was looking to face Sugar Ramos had they both won. Seeing that they both lost, fight still looks feasible to make.
Kid Chocolate has had a plethora of suspect decisions against him. He needs to hopefully get some wins to be able to compete in the upcoming tourney. Raul Rojas looks like a good dance partner. Chocolate felt robbed in the Hamed fight, and if there is a waiver clause for this week, and Kevo suggested it, we'd be open to that as well.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:33
by BoxBuzz
kevo wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
Hamed vs Sugar Ramos. Sign the damned fight.
Having one of the top records....at this time Sugar can have his choice of any title.....So this fight is on.
You have chosen a form of Cannibalism. Science has determine that such a diet does indeed have one redeeming quality.....it is KETO.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:52
by BoxBuzz
Abe Attell, a well respected fighter who as one of the best and finest of FW's went after and ruthlessly captured the IBO title last week, and will be locked out of the mandatory title discussions. To be fair, this was Jem's plan as well....however Jem did offer up the caveat that he would immediately toss the IBO title IF HE WON, in order to be considered for this weeks festivities. No such pre nuptial was noted from Abe.
This is not meant as much as a flagrant display of our undue influence, but as a practical matter in order to move this week forward. To show that there are no hard feelings, Jem will offer up the guarantee that should he win the WBA title, and Abe has won whatever fight he plans for week 15, Abe will be offered a shot at the WBA in week 16. But Saddler is under no requirement to offer such a deal.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:56
by BoxBuzz
armageto wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 12:30
Armstrong wants to get hopefully get revenge for his stablemate and will like to take on
Ben Jordan. If that isn't feasible, he was looking to face
Sugar Ramos had they both won. Seeing that they both lost, fight still looks feasible to make.
Kid Chocolate has had a plethora of suspect decisions against him. He needs to hopefully get some wins to be able to compete in the upcoming tourney.
Raul Rojas looks like a good dance partner. Chocolate felt robbed in the
Hamed fight, and if there is a waiver clause for this week, and
Kevo suggested it, we'd be open to that as well.
Alas the ghost of Ben has been called out previous to your request. And Kevo decided to gnaw his own leg off.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 12:59
by BoxBuzz
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
The Killer Miller has just been in the prolonged roll against the managed fighters and, unfortunately, suffered two losses in the last fights. So, now he needs some cheese.
Freddie Miller vs Jim Cheese, let's get it on.
The Miller and Cheese fight is of course on. McGovern will not be Arguello's mandatory.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:00
by BoxBuzz
NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:45
Juan Manuel Marquez will take on the boogeyman of the featherweight division,
Ben Jordan.
This fight will of course take place. Good luck against a very determined ghost.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:06
by DrDuke
BoxBuzz wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 12:59
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
The Killer Miller has just been in the prolonged roll against the managed fighters and, unfortunately, suffered two losses in the last fights. So, now he needs some cheese.
Freddie Miller vs Jim Cheese, let's get it on.
The Miller and Cheese fight is of course on. McGovern will not be Arguello's mandatory.
If not McGovern, Arguello will be glad to hear challenges, he's ready to face anybody.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:07
by BoxBuzz
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
McGovern accepts. Should be a good one.
Sanchez makes himself available to any of the other champions.
Sandy Saddler
WBA Champ
Vicente Saldivar
WBO Champ
Naseem Hamed
IBF Champ
Or else he calls out
BoxBuzz's Bobby Chacon. (I'll come up with a CPU back-up a bit later)
For this week Chacon will make himself available to Sanchez....and fully intends to "School Sally in the Alley". As it stands Sanchez will not be a mandatory for either the WBC or WBO....the only two major titles with no current mandatory.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:08
by BoxBuzz
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 13:06
BoxBuzz wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 12:59
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
The Killer Miller has just been in the prolonged roll against the managed fighters and, unfortunately, suffered two losses in the last fights. So, now he needs some cheese.
Freddie Miller vs Jim Cheese, let's get it on.
The Miller and Cheese fight is of course on. McGovern will not be Arguello's mandatory.
If not McGovern, Arguello will be glad to hear challenges, he's ready to face anybody.
This week Arguello will face a TBA mandatory. It's good to hear your man is up for any challenge.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:11
by BoxBuzz
NoScoutingReports wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 09:16
HyacinthusTurnipseed wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
DrDuke wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 04:44
Initially our team planned to do the unification for Arguello, as The Best There Is was going for the 3rd title defence. Now Alexis has it, but the only other fighter with 3 defences, Henry Armstrong, has suffered a defeat. So, there came back a one longtime option - Terry McGovern, who is still lucky enough to hold the single unavenged win over The Best There Is.
Alexis Arguello vs Terry McGovern II for the WBC Championship, let's do it.
McGovern accepts. Should be a good one.
Sanchez makes himself available to any of the other champions.
Sandy Saddler
WBA Champ
Vicente Saldivar
WBO Champ
Naseem Hamed
IBF Champ
Or else he calls out
BoxBuzz's Bobby Chacon. (I'll come up with a CPU back-up a bit later)
Happy for Saldivar to take on Sanchez
kevo wrote: ↑06 May 2021, 08:13
Hamed vs Sugar Ramos. Sign the damned fight.
Isn't Ramos coming off a defeat Kevo?
This rule was waivered for this week only. Based on Ramo's record he qualified for the shot.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:15
by BoxBuzz
TO CREASE:
Two of your fighters qualify for a mandatory shot. You may choose which fighter....and for which title....but not both.
Eder Jofre will be given the remaining shot.
I do believe this ends the Title discussion for the week.
UNLESS a champion drops his belt to run from a mandatory OR a mandatory fighter declines his option.
Re: FW SEASON WEEK 15 MATCHUPS *Commish's Choice*
Posted: 06 May 2021, 13:16
by DrDuke
Armstrong and Nelson get offers to be whooped in the WBC Title fight.