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Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 15:25
by world ranked
This is a question as for his resume as of right now prior to Pacquaio or anything else going forward. I'm not looking for
what he going to do going forward. Please don't answer if he beats etc, etc. I'm speaking as of you seeing this thread.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 15:37
by Cent0089
Garcia, Porter and Garcia are good enough wins for me . Lamont Peterson was on solid streak too and beating Brook in his hometown also counts a bit despite he was after GGG beating. Somewhat borderline of HoF i think
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 16:19
by gregregegg
Very tricky one. Is he the best current lower weight boxer to never move up?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 16:27
by squiggy
I like Spence, but... don't you want Halls of Fame to be pretty selective?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 16:45
by oogiebe
I'd say he has a bit to go to be HOF worthy. Needs that one defining fight at the very least.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 18:25
by Impractical Poster
Way too early.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 18:30
by Onetimeonly
I'd say he's pretty close.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 18:32
by world ranked
I'm shocked at the more no's. Brook, both Danny & Mikey Garcia, Porter, Peterson. 5 solid A/B+ wins.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 19:41
by margaret thatcher
world ranked wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:32
I'm shocked at the more no's. Brook, both Danny & Mikey Garcia, Porter, Peterson. 5 solid A/B+ wins.
that is hardly a lock for hof resume
keith thurman beat danny and porter before spence did, beat plenty of other recognizable names too. is he close to hof?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 19:44
by JxhDel.
Two more matches of his usual caliber and he can comfortably be.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 22 May 2021, 19:50
by margaret thatcher
btw i need to see more from mikey at 147 to really be wow impressed by spence beating him, i thought he lost 5 rounds to jesse f@cking vargas. mikey used to campaign at 126 and was flabby and laughably outsized. the fight was totally bizarre and hardly anyone had been talking about it before it came out of nowhere---because it simply wasn;t a 'natural' matchup
looks like a little chubby kid next to errol, if you saw these dudes being put in the same cell, you'd be feeling sorry for little mike

Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 04:48
by DrDuke
Of course, no for now.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 05:05
by Cent0089
I think he should go to 154 to get Charlo fight. Both are with PBC, where is the problem?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 05:21
by lazboy
Cent0089 wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 05:05
I think he should go to 154 to get Charlo fight. Both are with PBC, where is the problem?
From memory they are mates and stablemates. Spar each other regularly. Not saying it can’t happen e.g. Danny JAcobs dervenchenko. But harder to make,
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 05:29
by Enlightened-One
Are people pretending the standards for induction into the IBHoF have been lowered to a champion only needing to perform five title defences?

Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 06:47
by world ranked
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 19:41
world ranked wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:32
I'm shocked at the more no's. Brook, both Danny & Mikey Garcia, Porter, Peterson. 5 solid A/B+ wins.
that is hardly a lock for hof resume
keith thurman beat danny and porter before spence did, beat plenty of other recognizable names too. is he close to hof?
How many other former world champs did Thurman beat compared to Spence. What other recognizable names have Thurman beat?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 08:30
by Enlightened-One
world ranked wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 06:47
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 19:41
world ranked wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:32
I'm shocked at the more no's. Brook, both Danny & Mikey Garcia, Porter, Peterson. 5 solid A/B+ wins.
that is hardly a lock for hof resume
keith thurman beat danny and porter before spence did, beat plenty of other recognizable names too. is he close to hof?
How many other former world champs did Thurman beat compared to Spence.
Errol Spence Jr’s (former/current) world champion opposition = Chris Algieri, Kell Brook, Lamont Peterson, Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter & Danny Garcia.
Keith Thurman’s (former:current) world champion opposition = Carlos Quintana, Jan Zaveck, Julio Diaz, Robert Guerrero, Luis Collazo, Shawn Porter, Danny Garcia and Manny Pacquiao.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 08:44
by Boxing Prospect
I would say god no, but the hall of fame is so US and 147 centric centric the last few years he'd probably be a first ballot entry... whilst the likes of Moon, Arbachakov, Benn, Chitalada, Laciar, John, etc miss out year after year.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 18:39
by IKSRTFO
gregregegg wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 16:19
Very tricky one. Is he the best current lower weight boxer to never move up?
GGG?
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 19:10
by gregregegg
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑23 May 2021, 18:39
gregregegg wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 16:19
Very tricky one. Is he the best current lower weight boxer to never move up?
GGG?
Yea true, great example of a single weight all time great.
I often think people put to much hype into multi weight champs, they assume that means they are moving up and giving away a weight advantage, but that’s rarely true.
Crawford for example, excellent fighter, is a 3 or 4 weight champ, but has he ever been significantly smaller? Mabey a lb or 2 vs horn and Brook, mabey. Through his career he has definatly averaged been heavier than his opponent rather than the other way round..
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 19:35
by emallini
Definitely not. Beat Pac, Crawford and win a title at 154 then yes.
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 23 May 2021, 22:57
by bobcatbox
Not even close
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 24 May 2021, 09:48
by Enlightened-One
world ranked wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 15:25Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Do you consider Errol Spence Jr’s five title defences to be a greater accomplishment that surpasses the feats achieved by every single fighter listed below?
• Yuri Arbachakov
• Jorge Arce
• Paulie Ayala
• Nigel Benn
• Timothy Bradley
• Vuyani Bungu
• Ivan Calderon
• Joel Casamayor
• Sot Chitalada
• Diego Corrales
• Miguel Cotto
• Chris Eubank
• Carl Froch
• Leo Gamez
• Ricky Hatton
• Genaro Hernandez
• Chris John
• Mikkel Kessler
• Santos Laciar
• Rocky Lockridge
• Miguel “Happy” Lora
• Rafael Marquez
• Henry Maske
• Dariusz Michalczewski
• Sung-Kil Moon
• Michael Moorer
• Orzubek Nazarov
• Sven Ottke
• Vinny Paz
• Gilberto Roman
• Gianfranco Rosi
• Samuel Serrano
• Antonio Tarver
• Meldrick Taylor
• James Toney
• Fernando Vargas
• Israel Vazquez
• Wilfredo Vazquez
• Ratanapol Sor Vorapin
If not, then why did you create this thread?
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Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 24 May 2021, 16:53
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 19:41
world ranked wrote: ↑22 May 2021, 18:32
I'm shocked at the more no's. Brook, both Danny & Mikey Garcia, Porter, Peterson. 5 solid A/B+ wins.
that is hardly a lock for hof resume
keith thurman beat danny and porter before spence did, beat plenty of other recognizable names too. is he close to hof?
Nope, neither are HOF. Thurman more than likely never, and if Spence keeps sitting on the shelf twiddling his thumbs through his prime- he ain't making it either
Re: Is Spence HOF'er right now?
Posted: 24 May 2021, 16:56
by margaret thatcher
i mean, i understand ppl thinking he's not far off or that he's boarderline, but just rather weird to think he's already a lock and then be shocked when ppl disagree