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great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 06:35
by margaret thatcher
was trying to think of examples of this......

great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot well

any examples you got?

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 06:38
by forcefraser
Kovalev

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 06:41
by margaret thatcher
i mean they couldnt do either, kov could punch

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 07:07
by stujones
Khan isnt/wasnt a put you yo sleep puncher at the world level

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 07:21
by Ruthless-RKO
stujones wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:07 Khan isnt/wasnt a put you yo sleep puncher at the world level
But he could punch..

To be fair the KO’s he took, where brutal. He’s taking loads of good shots and stayed in the fight.

Garcia caught him in the ear, Canelo would have knocked out anyone with that punch

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 07:46
by high tower 1
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:21
stujones wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:07 Khan isnt/wasnt a put you yo sleep puncher at the world level
But he could punch..

To be fair the KO’s he took, where brutal. He’s taking loads of good shots and stayed in the fight.

Garcia caught him in the ear, Canelo would have knocked out anyone with that punch
More speed than power. Fastest hands I’ve ever seen.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 08:06
by THEBUTCH
No such great fighter exists. They can all punch and take a shot to a greater or lesser degree.

There are those who have failings in these areas and Khan is widely strung out for having a glass jaw, which is absolute crap.

You don't come through the shellacking he took from Maidana if you've got the weak chin Khan is supposed to have. If he had a china-chin Amir would have been falling over every fight because he was a big risk taker.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 12:43
by Foggy
Jermain Taylor

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 12:45
by world ranked
Terry Norris, Ivan Calderon, Joe Calzaghe,

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 12:57
by mickey1975
world ranked wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:45 Terry Norris, Ivan Calderon, Joe Calzaghe,
Throw in George Foreman as well.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 13:16
by bigjack
mickey1975 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:57
world ranked wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:45 Terry Norris, Ivan Calderon, Joe Calzaghe,
Throw in George Foreman as well.
Calzaghe couldn't punch or take a shot, ? same for Foreman ? :lol:

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 13:30
by mickey1975
bigjack wrote: 31 May 2021, 13:16
mickey1975 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:57
world ranked wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:45 Terry Norris, Ivan Calderon, Joe Calzaghe,
Throw in George Foreman as well.
Calzaghe couldn't punch or take a shot, ? same for Foreman ? :lol:
I was being sarcastic after he put joe in....

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 13:59
by high tower 1
Terry Norris could definitely punch. Ask sugar ray and John mugabe.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 14:06
by bigjack
mickey1975 wrote: 31 May 2021, 13:30
bigjack wrote: 31 May 2021, 13:16
mickey1975 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:57
Throw in George Foreman as well.
Calzaghe couldn't punch or take a shot, ? same for Foreman ? :lol:
I was being sarcastic after he put joe in....
Thank god,i read the post several times to make sure I was reading it right :TU:

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 14:41
by orbtastic
high tower 1 wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:21
stujones wrote: 31 May 2021, 07:07 Khan isnt/wasnt a put you yo sleep puncher at the world level
But he could punch..

To be fair the KO’s he took, where brutal. He’s taking loads of good shots and stayed in the fight.

Garcia caught him in the ear, Canelo would have knocked out anyone with that punch
More speed than power. Fastest hands I’ve ever seen.
Khan has ridiculously good hand speed. He just had the iq and ring smarts of a chimp and at one point for it into his head he was some banger.

Fair play to him though he’s been in with some class opposition and lesser men would have collapsed against maidana but instead he was banging his gloves together and wearing them like ear muffs.

I remember watching pre fight footage of Garcia throwing those huge looping overhand rights at the bag and thinking to myself man Khan is going to have a hard time with those.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 14:42
by margaret thatcher
aye, khan has atg level hand speed, blazing fast. i remember him fighting judah and alexander, both fast guys themselves, and he made them look like sloths

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 15:56
by dookus
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 May 2021, 14:42 aye, khan has atg level hand speed, blazing fast. i remember him fighting judah and alexander, both fast guys themselves, and he made them look like sloths
One of my recurring boxing daydreams, besides what if Joe Calzaghe's hands weren't made of bone china, is what Khan's chin wasn't made of same

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 16:13
by handsofstone
Cory Spinks

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 16:23
by dookus
handsofstone wrote: 31 May 2021, 16:13 Cory Spinks
:TU:

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 16:24
by dookus
Foggy wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:43Jermain Taylor
He could punch, put Froch down hard.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 16:37
by margaret thatcher
handsofstone wrote: 31 May 2021, 16:13 Cory Spinks
cory spinks is also a money answer for the tough question of sons who were better than their famous fathers

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 17:15
by coneye
Don't think anyone gets to that level without being able to punch or take a shot ,,, maybee not KO one punch power ,, but definetly hurt with the punch power , Its actually harder to ko someone with one punch than what people think .

Also brings you to the age old question can you teach power ,, personaly i think its natural some lucky ones just have it ,,, You can teach 20 kids to punch correctly and hit harder , and then in walks that one kid with natural timing and he hits just has hard without any coaching , teach him the same on how to deliver and bingo ,, you have a puncher ,,

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 18:19
by Controversial
I don't know if you would call him great but Cesar Cuenca was a world champ who went 48-0 before losing. He was stopped in 3 out of his 4 defeats and only had two stoppage wins out of 48.

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 18:22
by Wee Tommy
forcefraser wrote: 31 May 2021, 06:38Kovalev
Eh?

Re: great fighters who couldnt punch or take a shot

Posted: 31 May 2021, 18:25
by Wee Tommy
mickey1975 wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:57
world ranked wrote: 31 May 2021, 12:45 Terry Norris, Ivan Calderon, Joe Calzaghe,
Throw in George Foreman as well.
:lol: :TU: