Mikey Garcia vs. Regis Prograis - 2021?

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[margaret thatcher]

nice fight, mikey doesnt belong at 147. if he can beat reeg would love to see him challenge jt

[gilgamesh]

nice fight, mikey doesnt belong at 147. if he can beat reeg would love to see him challenge jt

I agree.

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Also congrats to Mike C taking Fat Dans old job.

[victor-romeo]

Regis is tough customer but the straight right hand is the southpaw killer and thats what Garcia has..

[victor-romeo]

I guess Mikey and Regis are kind of PBC lite so they end up on DAZN..

[goose 5]

Prograis on points.

[lazboy]

I feel like Garcia is on the slide or at least has stagnated. I’ve seen no noticeable improvement in his physique or boxing skills when fighting to suggest he’s taking the sport seriously. He also balloons up between fights.

A hungry fit and competent fighter like Prograis should cause him serious problems. It’s a good fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Prograis beats Garcia.

Mikey has weight control issues.

He can't make 140lbs again without being weight-drained.

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm unfortunately confident about being right.

[margaret thatcher]

poor mikey, absolutely a tiny shrimp little man at 147, but drained at 140

[Enlightened-One]

poor mikey, absolutely a tiny shrimp little man at 147, but drained at 140

Have a look at his recent training videos. He looks heavy, though not fat, but he does have hamster cheeks.

It's going to be a monumental struggle for him to make 140lbs again.

It's been three years since he's competed below 147lbs and he's approaching 34 years of age.

[margaret thatcher]

oh sure, meaning he'd be some short , soft, blown up dude vs much naturally bigger guys at 147, but if he cant make 140 without draining bad then he's in a tough spot

[gregregegg]

I would be shocked if mikey struggled to make 140, he is a tiny welter who came strait from 135, has never weighed in 146 or above, and fought at 126 when he was 25. he is a bit soft which makes cutting water harder but shit, if he can’t make it comfortably then I’m missing somthing…

Mikey having been at 147 for a few years dosent have to reflect that he has nessasarialy grown into the weight or it’s his his best weight, it’s just where the cash was. Mikey made like 15 million in 2 fights up there… most 140s would fight at heavyweight if you gave em that kind of cash.

[margaret thatcher]

he's not a natural 147 at all, only reason he couldnt make 140 comfortably is if he's an undisciplined fat ass who eats and drinks too much, maybe that's the case i dunno

[gregregegg]

he's not a natural 147 at all, only reason he couldnt make 140 comfortably is if he's an undisciplined fat ass who eats and drinks too much, maybe that's the case i dunno

He is built like inoue with a touch more body fat…. His lifestyle has limmited him to 135 + recently but I don’t think it’s got him to 147+

I dunno I’m no expert on it, by any means, but fornicate me if he can’t comfortably make 140 then He has been hanging with Ruiz too long.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Prograis

But this is a dynamite fight

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Are they both pbc guys?

[dickbelden]

NO

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Are they both pbc guys?

Prograis did sign with PBC last year.

Last I heard with Garcia, he’s affiliated with PBC.

Probably just uses Al as an advisor strictly.

Maybe how Jacob’s was.

[Enlightened-One]

I would be shocked if mikey struggled to make 140, he is a tiny welter who came strait from 135, has never weighed in 146 or above, and fought at 126 when he was 25. he is a bit soft which makes cutting water harder but shit, if he can’t make it comfortably then I’m missing somthing…

Mikey having been at 147 for a few years dosent have to reflect that he has nessasarialy grown into the weight or it’s his his best weight, it’s just where the cash was. Mikey made like 15 million in 2 fights up there… most 140s would fight at heavyweight if you gave em that kind of cash.

Mikey hasn't "grown" into the weight in a sporting manner. He's currently carrying some excess timber, hence his hamster cheeks. He's in his mid-thirties and he'll struggle to lose a lot of weight at his age.

Not campaiging below 147lbs for three years is a lot of time.

[gregregegg]

I would be shocked if mikey struggled to make 140, he is a tiny welter who came strait from 135, has never weighed in 146 or above, and fought at 126 when he was 25. he is a bit soft which makes cutting water harder but shit, if he can’t make it comfortably then I’m missing somthing…

Mikey having been at 147 for a few years dosent have to reflect that he has nessasarialy grown into the weight or it’s his his best weight, it’s just where the cash was. Mikey made like 15 million in 2 fights up there… most 140s would fight at heavyweight if you gave em that kind of cash.

Mikey hasn't "grown" into the weight in a sporting manner. He's currently carrying some excess timber, hence his hamster cheeks. He's in his mid-thirties and he'll struggle to lose a lot of weight at his age.

Not campaiging below 147lbs for three years is a lot of time.

Yea, i get it, But what do you think his fight night/in ring/ rehydrated weight was in his welter weight fights? Id be supprised if he was much above 150, that would mean he would only need to shed a couple of lbs and then a mellow water cut..

Tank fought 140 but only really put on 3 or 4 lbs from when he fought at 130. I think mikey has done something quite simmular when he moved from 135 to 147... stayed there longer, but even so i would think he can still make 140 pretty effortlessly (135 would be a big struggle though).

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Both men spoke to ESPN about the matchup, which has been brewing for a few weeks on social media.

“I definitely feel better at 140 (pounds), the only reason I was trying to be at 147 was for a title fight, but since we couldn’t secure a flight with Manny (Pacquiao), there was no reason to stay there,” Garcia (40-1, 30 KOs) told ESPN. “But I’ve pretty much made my decision to campaign at ‘40 for the next matchup.

“I think it’s a great matchup for a few reasons being that he’s an aggressive fighter, he’s accomplished, former world champion and he’s also hungry to regain that position and have a big victory. I want to get back, I want to do big things, I want to be able to challenge for a world title again and be a world champion so I think those are the elements that make it a great matchup.”

“I think it’s the biggest fight at 140,” Prograis (26-1, 22 KOs) told ESPN. “He has a big name, I have a big name right now. All sides want it. Sometimes one side don’t want it and the other side tries to push it. But with me and Mikey, I want it, he wants it. I talked to his brother (trainer Robert Garcia) on FaceTime; he wants it.

“I think it’s going to be a huge, huge fight. I do want to fight the best; I’ve been telling you I want to be a champion again. If I can’t get Josh Taylor, I think Mikey is bigger than anybody right now.”

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“Rougarou” also acknowledged that while he’s missed weight twice in a row against Juan Heraldez and Ivan Redkach, “he’ll be hiring a nutritionist for his next training camp” to break the eating habits he developed growing up New Orleans. While it is a bit ironic to see him struggle with the scales after his weight kerfuffle with Maurice Hooker a while back, I can confidently say that I’d be at least 20 pounds heavier if I lived in New Orleans, so fair play to him.

While Prograis is being a bit hyperbolic in calling Garcia “bigger than anybody right now,” this is still a great fight between a brutal body puncher and an ace technician with sneaky power of his own. Having watched Prograis maul two mid-tier guys in a row and Garcia insist on fighting well above his ideal weight, it’s good to see the pair in a well-matched, world-level fight again.

[Bandog]

Mikey Garcia is the same size as Manny, but with more bodyfat. Manny's head is about 5lbs bigger though. Both could make 140 easily.

As far as the fight I'd pick Mikey if more active, but since he's not its 50\50.

[margaret thatcher]

Mikey Garcia is the same size as Manny, but with more bodyfat. Manny's head is about 5lbs bigger though. Both could make 140 easily.

As far as the fight I'd pick Mikey if more active, but since he's not its 50\50.

manny again

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Mikey Garcia, Regis Prograis Target Texas, But Wait on Canelo

Once again, Canelo Alvarez shows that he is the fulcrum around which the boxing world rotates.

A potential fight between Mikey Garcia and Regis Prograis, two of the top names in the 140-pound division, is currently being negotiated for the fall, and both fighters like the sound of fighting in Texas, particularly in San Antonio. Prograis, a product of New Orleans, lives in nearby Houston, and recently fought in San Antonio on the Gervonta Davis-Leo Santa Cruz card last October. Garcia, a native of California, is no stranger to that city either. In 2018, he fought at the Alamodome against Sergey Lipinets before a rapturous Mexican-American audience and his brother Robert runs a boxing gym near the city as well.

But both Garcia and Prograis know that they will not be able to commit to a date until they have a firm idea of where and when the kingpin of the sport decides to fight next. Alvarez, the WBA, WBC, WBO 168-pound champion, is reportedly in talks to fight in September, perhaps against Caleb Plant, and Texas has been a popular destination for him in recent years. The Mexican superstar fought at the AT&T Stadium in Arlington this past spring against Billy Joe Saunders and at the Alamodome last December against Callum Smith.

A Garcia-Prograis fight is one of the more intriguing non-title match-ups that can be made in the sport, but Garcia, as business savvy as fighters come these days, knows that scheduling their fight around the same time and vicinity as Alvarez would be a self-sabotaging decision.

In boxing, Canelo gets first dibs.

“You gotta look at different events around it,” Garcia told spam.com. “Canelo is supposed to be fighting in September, possibly, again. So we gotta figure out our time [based on that] and then you also have to find the location. Depending on where Canelo fights we don’t want to be fighting in the same town or same state sometimes, back to back, because it just creates more competition. There’s a lot that goes into it. As long as the teams are on board, we’re moving in the right direction.”

Three of Garcia’s last four fights have taken place in Texas. His last fight, a unanimous decision over Jessie Vargas, in February 2020, was held at The Ford Center at The Star in Frisco, and his pay-per-view event against Errol Spence Jr., in 2019, occurred at the AT&T Stadium in Arlington. Clearly, Garcia would love for the Prograis fight to be staged in The Lone Star State.

The Alvarez implications, according to Garcia (40-1, 30 KOs), are just one reason why fight negotiations tend to get so convoluted. He is confident, however, that a deal with Prograis (26-1, 22 KOs) can be made, whether or not Texas ends up being available for them. It helps that both fighters need a fight at this moment.

“There’s a lot that goes behind the scenes,” Garcia said. “For the most part people don’t understand how and why things get done. Right now, obviously timing is a factor. Being that [Prograis] is available and I’m available, that's moving in the right direction."

Still, fighting in Texas remains high on Garcia’s list of priorities – he just needs Canelo to make his move first.

“Texas has always been a very good state for boxing,” Garcia said. “We might land there. But there might be another fight or event [around the same time], like a possible fight with Canelo. So we might move to a different city, we might change states completely. There’s so much that goes into it. Being that [Prograis] lives in Texas and is close to home – for me it’s like a second home, too, I find in Texas, more than I find in California. That might make it a better venue for this fight.”