Do Arum and Haymon have a secret business alliance now?

[555678]

For a decade Bob Arum and Al Haymon would not do business together, largely because Haymon has a 1-13 record vs Arum Top Rank fighters. Arum never held back a chance to scorch the reclusive secretive boxing impressario founder of PBC, often condeming Haymon's isolated monopolistic business practices as a detriment to the sport, even going so far as calling Haymon "a cancer to the sport."

This year in 2021 Arum suddenly is doing business with Haymon - Fury vs Wilder 3 (they also did Fury vs Wilder 2) and now Crawford vs Porter. Negotiations for both fights went super smoothly and conveniently - almost as if the two are now business partners engaging in a secret business alliance to join forces to combat Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearns' dominance. Did you notice Arum no longer ever says anything about Haymon, nothing negative or critical or devastating like calling him a cancer of the sport. Arum hasn't said a bad word about Haymon all year. Nothing.

The motive is there for Arum and Haymon to join foces. Both have no proven money making stars to sell right now. Both have guided their key asset heavyweigts to duck Anthony Joshua and a career high jackpot payday. Is it conceivable Arum and Haymon have secretly created a business alliance partnership to try to jointly take over the American heavyweight market with the Fury vs Wilder rivalry, which would entail freezing out Joshua and Eddie Hearn from America?

Do you find it curious, suspicious and strange that Bob Arum is now totally silent on Al Haymon and doing smooth, peaceful business with him compared to the nasty public feuding of the recent past?

Some people will do anything for money.

[Ruthless-RKO]

What are all the 14 fights where it’s 1-13 to TR

[peter barlow]

They both dislike Hearn more than they dislike each other. And they don't want him muscling in, they want US to be 2 big promoters tops.

[Perseus]

If it's being discussed on boxrec it's not a secret.

[Bandog]

I think you and EO should be room mates, and argue this BS at home.

[KiwiRider]

I think you and EO should be room mates, and argue this BS at home.

I'm putting all members with numbers for a handle on ignore.
Just trolls. Same type of conspiracy/hate threads.

[gregregegg]

wouldent get too far ahead of yourselves... they made fury vs wilder, thats it.

WBO made craw vs porter, sure haymon and arum got a deal done. but only after WBO put them in a spot where noone could pull out.

[555678]

Wilder and Fury both ducked AJ, we know that for a FACT.

wilder and fury have no other money fight options except AJ ... or so arum and haymon believe and hope - with each other.

so the motive is there to rig the series and build the wilder vs fury brand franchise as their way to combat AJ's dominance and monopoly on all the HWT money.

fury and wilder both intend to try to duck AJ forever. But they need money fights to do that. All roads lead to AJ. Everybody knows that. fury vs wilder and the haymon arum secret alliance may be the last ditch effort to try to marginalize AJ Hearn out of the fury vs wilder franchise market in USA. Boycotting this fight is very important step to force both to fight AJ. Boycott fight and watch the you tube video a day later.

[scallum2015]

Well looks like Porter is fighting on The Top Rank Card vs Crawford. Im not sure but i dont recall Haymon letting any of his fighters fight on a Card completely run by Top Rank

[scallum2015]

Wilder and Fury both ducked AJ, we know that for a FACT.

wilder and fury have no other money fight options except AJ ... or so arum and haymon believe and hope - with each other.

so the motive is there to rig the series and build the wilder vs fury brand franchise as their way to combat AJ's dominance and monopoly on all the HWT money.

fury and wilder both intend to try to duck AJ forever. But they need money fights to do that. All roads lead to AJ. Everybody knows that. fury vs wilder and the haymon arum secret alliance may be the last ditch effort to try to marginalize AJ Hearn out of the fury vs wilder franchise market in USA. Boycotting this fight is very important step to force both to fight AJ. Boycott fight and watch the you tube video a day later.

Why Would Either guy Duck Aj? They both stand a very good chance to beat Aj and make crazy$$$. Especially Tyson Fury in his right mind on paper he should beat Aj.

[Nightmare Roy]

They both dislike Hearn more than they dislike each other. And they don't want him muscling in, they want US to be 2 big promoters tops.

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[The Gratest]

I think you and EO should be room mates, and argue this BS at home.

I'm putting all members with numbers for a handle on ignore.
Just trolls. Same type of conspiracy/hate threads.

Including 'One'?

[555678]

Well looks like Porter is fighting on The Top Rank Card vs Crawford. Im not sure but i dont recall Haymon letting any of his fighters fight on a Card completely run by Top Rank

pawn porter is just a pawn at this point. He's being used as a pawn to try to take down the King of the division which would finally put protected spence in the clear. Then haymon can rig spence to be the undisputed franchise king welter.

Should be easy to understand, porter has little value at this point, he's just a b side with zero chance of ever being an a side. haymon knows his chances are better to make spence an a side franchise if he can use one of his pawns to eliminate Bud.

[555678]

Wilder and Fury both ducked AJ, we know that for a FACT.

wilder and fury have no other money fight options except AJ ... or so arum and haymon believe and hope - with each other.

so the motive is there to rig the series and build the wilder vs fury brand franchise as their way to combat AJ's dominance and monopoly on all the HWT money.

fury and wilder both intend to try to duck AJ forever. But they need money fights to do that. All roads lead to AJ. Everybody knows that. fury vs wilder and the haymon arum secret alliance may be the last ditch effort to try to marginalize AJ Hearn out of the fury vs wilder franchise market in USA. Boycotting this fight is very important step to force both to fight AJ. Boycott fight and watch the you tube video a day later.

Why Would Either guy Duck Aj? They both stand a very good chance to beat Aj and make crazy$$$. Especially Tyson Fury in his right mind on paper he should beat Aj.

same reason floyd ducked Pacquiao for six years and intended to duck Pac forever except Les Moonves head of cbs showtime stepped in and forced floyd to fight Pac.

floyd and haymon intended to duck Pac forever, pretend to want the fight and use Pac's name to sell himself. floyd and haymon had the guaranteed HBO contract but when HBO realized floyd was intending to duck Pac forever, they dumped him. Haymon managed to manipulate showtime and steve espinoza to give floyd a six fight $150m gauranteed tv contract. again floyd intended to duck Pac forever, while pretending to take want the fight, only to keep using his inventory of excuses to keep ducking Pac and blaming Pac and Arum for failed negotiations.

wilder and fury are the same deal now, they both know they can't beat AJ. and arum and haymon believe they can become the two co A sides of the hwt division with their fake scripted rivalry. also they are hoping AJ loses to Usyk and then they can say, See, we told you AJ was a bum the whole time.

But astute ring observers know wilder ducked AJ for $120m and Fury ducked him this year.

It's really quite obvious if you have some common sense and see through the deceptions and disguises of fury and wilder PRETENDING to want to fight AJ but never signing the contract to do it.

[555678]

They both dislike Hearn more than they dislike each other. And they don't want him muscling in, they want US to be 2 big promoters tops.

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why would they dislike Hearn so much, he's offering them career high jackpots to dare to be great vs AJ. Both ducked AJ. wilder ducked $120m to fight AJ and Fury about the same.

If they dislike Hearn so much, wouldn't beating his cash cow AJ be the best revenge? You see?

wilder fury arum haymon all know Hearn and AJ are the boss and they don't have the courage and guts to try to dethrone AJ like Usyk does.

I'm certain fury wilder arum haymon are in a business alliance now and this third fight will be a scripted skit to try to upvalue fury and wilder. my guess is another draw with Fury faking two knockdowns again. if AJ loses to Usyk, then fury and wilder will be sitting in perfect position to run the division and kept in house by PBC, forever freezing out AJ.

[KiwiRider]

I think you and EO should be room mates, and argue this BS at home.

I'm putting all members with numbers for a handle on ignore.
Just trolls. Same type of conspiracy/hate threads.

Including 'One'?

No way!
Onetimeonly is my homie

[The Gratest]

I'm putting all members with numbers for a handle on ignore.
Just trolls. Same type of conspiracy/hate threads.

Including 'One'?

No way!
Onetimeonly is my homie

Ahhh, haha, you have enlightened me.

[555678]

It just makes no sense for wilder and fury to be trying to fight each other over and over instead of going after AJ and the big money. each could have gotten AJ but both walked away from JACKPOT$$.

unless of course, they are trying to duck AJ and freeze him out of the picture in USA market.

[Onetimeonly]

[scallum2015]

It just makes no sense for wilder and fury to be trying to fight each other over and over instead of going after AJ and the big money. each could have gotten AJ but both walked away from JACKPOT$$.

unless of course, they are trying to duck AJ and freeze him out of the picture in USA market.

Dont they have rematch Clauses in The Contracts. Im pretty sure if a Champion lost his Belt he would have an automatic rematch in the contract

[Enlightened-One]

For a decade Bob Arum and Al Haymon would not do business together, largely because Haymon has a 1-13 record vs Arum Top Rank fighters.

List those fights.

If you can't, it never happened.

[555678]

and the last time haymon dared to fight Arum his guy stevenson ended up with brain damage from Gvodzyk.

the only haymon win was a rigged one by rigging the judges- floyd vs Pac. floydboxed careful and did not try to win the fight in decisive fashion, just make sure you don't get caught and knocked out, the judges will give it to you. also haymon and floyd rigged the fake punch stats and the tv commentators to favor floyd. incredible fix. that's why floyd ducked the rematch forever. he knew they couldn't rig it again.

[Enlightened-One]

and the last time haymon dared to fight Arum his guy stevenson ended up with brain damage from Gvodzyk.

You only listed two fights, but originally claimed fourteen.

If you can't list all of those fights, then it never happened

the only haymon win was a rigged one by rigging the judges- floyd vs Pac. ... just make sure you don't get caught and knocked out, the judges will give it to you. also haymon and floyd rigged the fake punch stats and the tv commentators to favor floyd. incredible fix. that's why floyd ducked the rematch forever. he knew they couldn't rig it again.

I don't need to say anything about this comment, since you're clearly trolling.

I'm actually quite enjoying reading your bizarre nonsense claims, because they're unrealistic to the point of being funny.