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Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 08:05
by aicheligad
And again, in favour of Joshua.

According to compubox, Joshua threw +100 punches more, outlanded Usyk in 5 rounds, and landed only 25 punches less.

In Povetkin fight, compubox tell us that Joshua landed more than Povetkin in EVERY round and landed almost 2x more!

Compubox stats in Fury vs Wilder 1 make no sense as well.

There are other examples too, of course, but all of them in favour of the A side, compubox makes no sense and often it's as crooked as Howard Foster's (or even Adelaide Byrd's) scorecards!

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 08:14
by greg
you got a link? thanx..

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 08:25
by aicheligad
greg wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 08:14 you got a link? thanx..
https://ringside24.com/en/47322-joshua- ... unch-stats

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 08:27
by aicheligad
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Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:07
by DrDuke
That's impossible, simple as that.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:35
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Those seem accurate. Usyk won the first 4, dominated the last 2 and round 7

Thats the fight I saw

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:38
by Jeff_lacy_ko
And joshua threw a lot of jabs that were blocked hence throwing more

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:47
by margaret thatcher
josh won 5,6,8

usyk all others clear for me. judges actually had it even after 8 though, but then all 3 gave usyk the last 4

howard foster had josh ahead going into the 10th


defo thought those numbers were a bit generous to joshua. for example didnt think he outlanded usyk in round 10 at all, let alone by 5. i thought usyk outlanded josh in 9 rounds.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:53
by margaret thatcher
compubox had aj landing more after 10 rounds

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:55
by Jeff_lacy_ko
"Landing more" when you are throwing soft range jabs that may land makes sense though he threw a bunch of them

The power punch numbers make sense to me

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 09:57
by DrDuke
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 09:55 "Landing more" when you are throwing soft range jabs that may land makes sense though he threw a bunch of them
There weren't many even of such.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 19:42
by gregregegg
Usyk kept AJ below 20% land on compubox. thats impressive considering he is normaly in the 30s% area.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 21:34
by ldlamb
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 09:38 And joshua threw a lot of jabs that were blocked hence throwing more
This

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 26 Sep 2021, 21:36
by margaret thatcher
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 26 Sep 2021, 09:55 "Landing more" when you are throwing soft range jabs that may land makes sense though he threw a bunch of them

The power punch numbers make sense to me
accounting for all punches that landed, even if soft flicky range finders, i just dont see aj having landed more in the fight going into the 11th

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 01:16
by adislav123
u can't cause he simply didn't.

roboticly sticking out left and right hands without any commitment, plain missing or glancing a glove ISN'T landing punches.

but that's what they count, trying to be subtle but failing. always favouring the a side.

and not by mistake.

compubox is crooked to the core. paid off to underline the (this time) failed set up.

trying to legitimize robberies with the 'official numbers' & 'numbers don't lie' shtick.

well, they do.

instrument of corruption. simple as that.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 04:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Also guys, just cuts yu land more doesn’t mean you with the round. Usyk’s punches seemed to do more damage than AJ’s.

AJ might have landed 3 jabs to the body, and then Usyk lands a left hook and nearly has AJ on the ground.

We’re giving that to Usyk aren’t we?

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 22:45
by jezzamundo
Looks about right to me - Joshua threw a lot of pawing jabs that don't win rounds but are counted by Compubox. TBH the only round I've seen where Compubox didn't seem to match the action was the 3rd round of Mayweather vs Pacquiao which I see as competitive but a clear Manny round, though Compubox had Mayweather outlanding him 3:1 in that round, which frankly had/has me scratching my head.

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 22:47
by margaret thatcher
jezzamundo wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 22:45 Looks about right to me - Joshua threw a lot of pawing jabs that don't win rounds but are counted by Compubox. TBH the only round I've seen where Compubox didn't seem to match the action was the 3rd round of Mayweather vs Pacquiao which I see as competitive but a clear Manny round, though Compubox had Mayweather outlanding him 3:1 in that round, which frankly had/has me scratching my head.
you think josh was outlanding usyk to start the 11th?

Re: Compubox makes no sense again.

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 22:50
by jezzamundo
margaret thatcher wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 22:47
jezzamundo wrote: 27 Sep 2021, 22:45 Looks about right to me - Joshua threw a lot of pawing jabs that don't win rounds but are counted by Compubox. TBH the only round I've seen where Compubox didn't seem to match the action was the 3rd round of Mayweather vs Pacquiao which I see as competitive but a clear Manny round, though Compubox had Mayweather outlanding him 3:1 in that round, which frankly had/has me scratching my head.
you think josh was outlanding usyk to start the 11th?
In meaningful punches, certainly not. In the number of times, the glove made contact a-la amateur scoring - perhaps, though still probably not. Compubox definitely isn't 100% accurate, but I think it's usually pretty close. I had Usyk winning 116-112 for the record, but could see 115-113 or 117-111 as viable scorecards too.