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Definitely this is a weak smw era and also a great opportunity for Canelo to be the first smw mexican undisputed champion.

Even the Groves, DeGale and Badou Jack era was better than this.

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

You sure do obsess about this Apollo Creed fellow don't you? Maybe you'd like for him to take you to the prom?

Canelo would have wanted no part of Andre Ward or Roy Jones jr and why should he have? You don't increase your value by being stupid.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:38

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

You sure do obsess about this Apollo Creed fellow don't you? Maybe you'd like for him to take you to the prom?

I assume you haven’t got the intellect to comprehend the point I’m making?

What’s the matter kid? Are you embarrassed that I’ve made a mockery of one of your close buddies (or role model)?

All I’m guilty of is quoting apollo creed’s own words to illustrate his blatantly obvious hypocrisy!

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:51

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:38

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02








End of thread!

You sure do obsess about this Apollo Creed fellow don't you? Maybe you'd like for him to take you to the prom?

I assume you haven’t got the intellect to comprehend the point I’m making?

What’s the matter kid? Are you embarrassed that I’ve made a mockery of one of your close buddies (or role model)?

All I’m guilty of is quoting apollo creed’s own words to illustrate his blatantly obvious hypocrisy!

I am amazed that you'd spend so much time stalking someone here but then again it's you. A person who is obviously autistic and doesn't understand simple logic. A computer says no type of person. If only your brain would grow a bit, eh won't happen.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:00

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:51

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:38
You sure do obsess about this Apollo Creed fellow don't you? Maybe you'd like for him to take you to the prom?

I assume you haven’t got the intellect to comprehend the point I’m making?

What’s the matter kid? Are you embarrassed that I’ve made a mockery of one of your close buddies (or role model)?

All I’m guilty of is quoting apollo creed’s own words to illustrate his blatantly obvious hypocrisy!

I am amazed that you'd spend so much time stalking someone here but then again it's you.

Are you saying that tasks that I find trivial in nature that can be performed very quickly, would be particularly mentally taxing and time-consuming for you?

If you’re jealous and would like to learn to do simple things rather quickly, instead of having to try so hard, then you could pay me to become your mentor?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:06

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:00

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:51
I assume you haven’t got the intellect to comprehend the point I’m making?

What’s the matter kid? Are you embarrassed that I’ve made a mockery of one of your close buddies (or role model)?

All I’m guilty of is quoting apollo creed’s own words to illustrate his blatantly obvious hypocrisy!

I am amazed that you'd spend so much time stalking someone here but then again it's you.

Are you saying that tasks that I find trivial in nature that can be performed very quickly, would be particularly mentally taxing and time-consuming for you?

If you’re jealous and would like to learn to do simple things rather quickly, instead of having to try so hard, then you could pay me to become your mentor?

Perhaps I have a life. If I lose my life however I may take you up on your offer and get in touch with you regarding the matter.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:11

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:06

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:00

I am amazed that you'd spend so much time stalking someone here but then again it's you.

Are you saying that tasks that I find trivial in nature that can be performed very quickly, would be particularly mentally taxing and time-consuming for you?

If you’re jealous and would like to learn to do simple things rather quickly, instead of having to try so hard, then you could pay me to become your mentor?

Perhaps I have a life. If I lose my life however I may take you up on your offer and get in touch with you regarding the matter.

Are you’re saying our life is so hectic and fulfilling that you don’t have much time to educate yourself?

If that’s the case, then why did you go out of your way to passionately and aggressively defend apollo creed’s hypocrisy and honour at all cost?

I guess you don’t really “have a life” after all!

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Apollo looks like a pop star here. Look how big fan of him EO is. Follows his comment history passionately. It'll be no surprise, if someone breaks into EO's room and finds it decorated with Apollo's posters. I bet EO wants Apollo's signature on his tits.

apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 07:32 Even the Groves, DeGale and Badou Jack era was better than this.

Not really. Well, Smith even dealt with Groves handily.

Howerever, Ward-Froch-Kessler would definitely be a tougher era for Canelo. He would still try to unify. Ward and Froch fights would be bigger than any of current unifications.

Canelo vs Ward sounds intriguing.

To answer the OP, I'm not sure Canelo would move up to 168 with these boys around. Not saying he couldn't beat some/all of them, but I'd guess he'd stay below this weight class.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Don't see anything wrong with Apollo's posts over time. Sorry EO.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:05

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Don't see anything wrong with Apollo's posts over time. Sorry EO.

OK apollo.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:10

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:05

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02








End of thread!

Don't see anything wrong with Apollo's posts over time. Sorry EO.

OK apollo.

Really? That's your response?

No

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Good job EO for digging deep in my old posts like a truffle hog.

You've fulfilled your destiny!

H8Usernames wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:38

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

You sure do obsess about this Apollo Creed fellow don't you? Maybe you'd like for him to take you to the prom?

Canelo would have wanted no part of Andre Ward or Roy Jones jr and why should he have? You don't increase your value by being stupid.

True! EO is a weirdo.

I don't think Alvarez would mind unifying with Froch and Kessler. I'm not sure whether he'd be too keen on fighting Ward. Maybe, because a win over Ward would be a legendary score for one's legacy. And if a dude is willing to fight Kovalev, Golovkin, and Mayweather; then he might be willing to fight Ward as well.

DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 09:59 Apollo looks like a pop star here. Look how big fan of him EO is. Follows his comment history passionately. It'll be no surprise, if someone breaks into EO's room and finds it decorated with Apollo's posters. I bet EO wants Apollo's signature on his tits.

This weirdo-troll EO may have in his pc stored all my threads and comments, especially about GGG, Charlo and Andrade!

EO may be a sad case of psychiatric disorder.

DrDuke wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:01

apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 07:32 Even the Groves, DeGale and Badou Jack era was better than this.

Not really. Well, Smith even dealt with Groves handily.

Howerever, Ward-Froch-Kessler would definitely be a tougher era for Canelo. He would still try to unify. Ward and Froch fights would be bigger than any of current unifications.

Canelo vs Ward sounds intriguing.

Maybe a semi-damaged goods version of Groves from the 2 wars with Froch. That was not a prime Groves.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:04 To answer the OP, I'm not sure Canelo would move up to 168 with these boys around. Not saying he couldn't beat some/all of them, but I'd guess he'd stay below this weight class.

Yup. I think that too.

oogiebe wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 10:05

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 08:02

apollo creed wrote: ↑11 Nov 2019, 03:16There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

apollo creed wrote: ↑03 Nov 2019, 05:15If Canelo doesn't want to fight Beterbiev in 2020 then Callum Smith or even BJS would be great fights too.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Aug 2019, 11:05I'd like more to see Canelo fighting Callum Smith since Canelo has a semi title at 168 lbs.

apollo creed wrote: ↑22 Dec 2018, 06:07My wish it's Canelo vs Callum Smith on Cinco de Mayo 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑16 Dec 2018, 14:31Callum is big indeed but gingerboy is so slick and hard to hit with strong body puches. I'd like to see this fight in 2019.

apollo creed wrote: ↑09 Dec 2018, 08:06If Canelo wants to make a solid statement at 168, he should go for Callum Smith.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Oct 2018, 07:07Yeah it's a big gap in size advantage but gingerboy is very skilled and powerful. His chin is strong too. He'd get lots of credit if he faces Callum.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Nov 2020, 06:52 Plant is a young smw in his prime. He beat Medina and Uzcategui(smw IBF champ).

In terms of competitiveness I'd like to see Canelo vs Caleb.

apollo creed wrote: ↑07 Nov 2020, 08:01Caleb is a good fight for Canelo.

End of thread!

Don't see anything wrong with Apollo's posts over time. Sorry EO.

EO can't understand that as a boxing fan I was trying to hype these fights. Smith & Plant are decent fights for Canelo but they are weak champions compared with S6 guys, RJJ, Calzaghe, even Badou Jack.

apollo creed wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 12:06EO can't understand that as a boxing fan I was trying to hype these fights. Smith & Plant are decent fights for Canelo but they are weak champions compared with S6 guys, RJJ, Calzaghe, even Badou Jack.

I think the problem I have with some of your comments is that you often accuse fighters (like Canelo) of avoiding certain names, because “they’re too risky” or “they’re too scared”.

But whenever these “risky” names subsequently lose to the aforementioned fighter(s) you accused of being cowardly, you undermine those victories, by accusing the victor of cherry-picking an opponent that was never that good in the first place.

I’m not sure how else to describe your antics other than being a revisionist historian. This isn't an opinion, since you're responding to a post that almost exclusively contains quotes of your very own words!

For sure, the Ward, Froch & Kessler era was probably the greatest in the sports 168lbs history.

But I fear that even if Canelo defeated those guys at their respective primes, you’d still accuse him of cherry-picking hype jobs.

It’s just one of those things, because you just don’t like the guy, which undermines your credibility and objectivity.

You’re basically admitting to the world you’ll never praise certain fighters regardless their achievements in the sport of boxing… and that it’s your sole cause in life to always do your upmost to undermine their feats, regardless as to whether it results in you being hypocritical.

Look, you’re entitled to “like” or “dislike” whomever you damn well want, but if a fighter you previously praised and hyped-up loses, then you should really try to award kudos to the opponent that defeated them!

Lol, Canelo hate is real on boxrec