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I would like to see a Super-Heavyweight division

Reinstate the 190 division at Jr cruiserweight and move the current cruiserweight division to 210

or also keep the current 200 pound division and create a super cruiserweight division at 210 pounds.

Bridgerweight is nonsense.

Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:10 Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

How about "Not this-not that" division?

brilliant ideas. really hope all the orgs pick that up asap.

then we could have up to 15 'world champions' more to adore. who wouldn't want that?

This was attempted in the 1930s and 1970s @ Super Heavyweight. Thank Jesus Christ Almighty God wiser heads prevailed and such things were never adopted because much smaller men knocked the crap out of the bigger men.

No it wouldn't.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:10 Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

Doesn't matter what you name it. It doesn't matter, never will. Any respectable boxing fan will never even acknowledge it's existence.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:45

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:10 Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

Doesn't matter what you name it. It doesn't matter, never will. Any respectable boxing fan will never even acknowledge it's existence.

Within a decade they will be.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:05

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:45

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:10 Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

Doesn't matter what you name it. It doesn't matter, never will. Any respectable boxing fan will never even acknowledge it's existence.

Within a decade they will be.

I agree with EO on this. Back in the day sports writers said they would never recognize the cruiserweight division. Now it is universally accepted and some people think it is the most exciting division.
The bridgerweight division will be around and no amount of complaining will change it.
In 10 years time people will be talking about the competitive division and its brief history

Believe it or not

Don't give it attention and hopefully it will fade away. Usyk destroyed any notion of a new division being needed.
The truth is at least 5 current divisions should be scraped especially lower down, nevermind adding anymore.

I'd scrape Light Middle, Light Welter, Super Fly, Super Bantam and Light Flyweight. Very little would be lost and there would be much better fights as guys move up or down. Look at UFC model, another reason its stealing boxings lunch money.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:05

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:45

Doesn't matter what you name it. It doesn't matter, never will. Any respectable boxing fan will never even acknowledge it's existence.

Within a decade they will be.

I agree with EO on this. Back in the day sports writers said they would never recognize the cruiserweight division. Now it is universally accepted and some people think it is the most exciting division.
The bridgerweight division will be around and no amount of complaining will change it.
In 10 years time people will be talking about the competitive division and its brief history

Believe it or not

Cruiser is actually warranted, the gap between Light Heavy and the Heavys of today is too big. But Bridger also? No way. Didn't Rivas outweigh Usyk ffs, how can any non troll or WBC official support it

peter barlow wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:29

tiny_acres wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:21

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:05
Within a decade they will be.

I agree with EO on this. Back in the day sports writers said they would never recognize the cruiserweight division. Now it is universally accepted and some people think it is the most exciting division.
The bridgerweight division will be around and no amount of complaining will change it.
In 10 years time people will be talking about the competitive division and its brief history

Believe it or not

Cruiser is actually warranted, the gap between Light Heavy and the Heavys of today is too big. But Bridger also? No way. Didn't Rivas outweigh Usyk ffs, how can any non troll or WBC official support it

I am not and have not defended the need for a bridgerweight division.
I am simply stating the obvious connection of the 2 divisions. I am old enough to remember
the birth of the cruiserweight division. I also remember the purist saing anything over 175 was heavyweight.
Things change and fans will accept this in 10 years or so just like they did with cruiserweight.

The super-middleweight division was created during November 1988.

People criticised the new division back then, but it’s easily one of the most popular weight classes today (arguably more high-profile than 140lbs, 154lbs, 160lb & 175lbs).

Times change. People adapt. It just takes time.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:05

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:45

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 12:10 Rename the brigerweight division to super-cruiserweight.

Doesn't matter what you name it. It doesn't matter, never will. Any respectable boxing fan will never even acknowledge it's existence.

Within a decade they will be.

Doesn't matter they will be?

Great wording there genius.

Usyk just sh*t all over your theory that we need this division. Just like all of Boxing history had before him.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:41 The super-middleweight division was created during November 1988.

People criticised the new division back then, but it’s easily one of the most popular weight classes today (arguably more high-profile than 140lbs, 154lbs, 160lb & 175lbs).

Times change. People adapt. It just takes time.

Super Middleweight is not at all "high profile"

It's had like 2 or 3 stars at best in all of it's existence.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:56

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 13:41 The super-middleweight division was created during November 1988.

People criticised the new division back then, but it’s easily one of the most popular weight classes today (arguably more high-profile than 140lbs, 154lbs, 160lb & 175lbs).

Times change. People adapt. It just takes time.

Super Middleweight is not at all "high profile"

It's had like 2 or 3 stars at best in all of it's existence.

The division is roughly thirty years of age, which means it hasn't been around for long, but some of its titleholders include:

• Sugar 'Ray' Leonard
• Thomas Hearns
• Roy Jones Jr.
• James Toney
• Canelo
• Andre Ward
• Chris Eubank Sr.
• Nigel Benn
• Steve Collins
• Carl Froch
• Joe Calzaghe
• Mikkel Kessler
• Lucian Bute
• Markus Beyer
• Sven Ottke
• Jeff Lacy
• Gilberto Ramirez
• Arthur Abraham
• Robert Stieglitz

Most of those guys passed through the division for a cup of coffee. They didn't stay there for any length of time. Also half of 'em aren't stars.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:12 Most of those guys passed through the division for a cup of coffee. They didn't stay there for any length of time. Also half of 'em aren't stars.

You're a moderator for BoxRec, right? I'm sure you've checked BoxRec's title lineage pages, like I've done.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:18

gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:12 Most of those guys passed through the division for a cup of coffee. They didn't stay there for any length of time. Also half of 'em aren't stars.

You're a moderator for BoxRec, right? I'm sure you've checked BoxRec's title lineage pages, like I've done.

I do when I give a sh*t.

Contrary to you I actually have a f*cking life, and don't spend my entire time on here making asinine comments trying to sound like I'm a genius to 40 people who hate my guts

Super heavyweight? Please... It won't be enough. We need a total revolution over 175 lbs. Bring on super cruiserweight, light bridgerweight, bridgerweight, super bridgerweight, almost heavyweight, heavyweight, super heavyweight, super duper heavyweight and ultra super duper f*cking heavyweight.

DrDuke wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:52 Super heavyweight? Please... It won't be enough. We need a total revolution over 175 lbs. Bring on super cruiserweight, light bridgerweight, bridgerweight, super bridgerweight, almost heavyweight, heavyweight, super heavyweight, super duper heavyweight and ultra super duper f*cking heavyweight.

SHHHHH!!!!!!
The powers that control boxing are reading this forum. Don't give them any ideas

DrDuke wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 14:52 Super heavyweight? Please... It won't be enough. We need a total revolution over 175 lbs. Bring on super cruiserweight, light bridgerweight, bridgerweight, super bridgerweight, almost heavyweight, heavyweight, super heavyweight, super duper heavyweight and ultra super duper f*cking heavyweight.

Wanna cuppa and a little lie down mate?
Take a breath and let me see if we have any biscuits to go with that, ok?

H8Usernames wrote: ↑03 Nov 2021, 11:23 Reinstate the 190 division at Jr cruiserweight and move the current cruiserweight division to 210

or also keep the current 200 pound division and create a super cruiserweight division at 210 pounds.

Bridgerweight is nonsense.

The former is my best solution. The latter doesn't make sense, because you would have a 25lb jump from LHW to Cruiser, then a 10lb jump to super cruiser. A 225lb Bridgerweight division is madness - super heavyweights like Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis and possibly Wlad Klitschko could have made that weight early in their careers with no problem.