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So Frank W did a pre-announcement of an announcement yesterday by saying Joyce’s next fight will be announced next Wednesday for London on Feb 12th.

Any thoughts on who the opponent might be? The one I’m hoping for but would be surprised if they make it happen is Otto Wallin as he must be in semi-decent shape and it’d be a good one.

Anyone heard any rumours?

He needs a big name worldwide, stick him in with Wilder or Andy Ruiz. He needs to get a move on at his age.

Talk of Kubrat Pulev

Hrgovic, Gassiev, Wallin or Hunter would be very interesting but unlikely to happen

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:35 Hrgovic, Gassiev, Wallin or Hunter would be very interesting but unlikely to happen

Gassiev would be too big a risk and might Hirgovic be. Wallin or Hunter not good enough step ups now (espcially after Hunter drew to a journeyman).

Needs to be someone like Luis Ortiz, Wilder or Ruiz Jnr now.

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:30 He needs a big name worldwide, stick him in with Wilder or Andy Ruiz. He needs to get a move on at his age.

Neither of those will be happening in mid Feb in London though.

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:31 Talk of Kubrat Pulev

I’d forgotten about Kubrat. Fairly uninspiring but could be worse I guess.

Ruiz and Wilder have just earned tens of millions. They're not coming here.

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:55

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:31 Talk of Kubrat Pulev

I’d forgotten about Kubrat. Fairly uninspiring but could be worse I guess.

He's just had a win in a triangle.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:56

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:55

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:31 Talk of Kubrat Pulev

I’d forgotten about Kubrat. Fairly uninspiring but could be worse I guess.

He's just had a win in a triangle.

Yeah. I saw that fight as it was interested to see whether the rules changed the dynamic of it. Pulev just hammered a very old version of Mir who was 15 years past his best as an MMA fighter let alone fighting a boxer with smaller gloves.

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:55

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:31 Talk of Kubrat Pulev

I’d forgotten about Kubrat. Fairly uninspiring but could be worse I guess.

Would be quality IF Joyce was more active. He's 37 next year, he's had 1 fight in 2021 and 2 in 2020. Where is the urgency?

We'll probably get Pulev and Chisora after perhaps. He isn't getting a world title shot in 2022 that's for sure, WBO are last in line despite what Queensbury are claiming.

Who, realistically is there that warrents a pre-announcement hype tweet?

Boxrecs top 20 - the top 7 are tied up or out of reach...
1 ➡ Oleksandr Usyk
2 ➡ Tyson Fury
3 ➡ Anthony Joshua
4 ➡ Deontay Wilder
5 ➡ Dillian Whyte
6 ➡ Joseph Parker
7 ➡ Dereck Chisora
8 ➡ Michael Hunter - Guessing he needs a rematch after the draw with Forrest
9 ➡ Murat Gassiev - Too risky for both guys?
10 ➡ Joe Joyce - Man can't fight himself
11 ➡ Andy Ruiz - Unlikely
12 ➡ Hughie Fury - Could it really happen? Think it would be a step backwards
13 ➡ Agit Kabayel - Maybe, but hardly a thriller
14 ➡ Robert Helenius - Coming off two decent wins...bit of name value..possible
15 ➡ Frank Sanchez - Just beaten Ajagba....but probably need to proceed with caution to keep his 0
16 ➡ Otto Wallin - Dining out on his Fury performance. Easy work for Joyce.
17 ➡ Martin Bakole - Bounced back after losing to Hunter. Not worthy of this pre announcement hype
18 ➡ Adam Kownacki - Been battered of Kownacki
19 ➡ Tony Yoka - Olympic grudge match...that could sell...Yoka going nowhere seemingly.
20 ➡ Daniel Dubois - Already beat

Out of the above, I'd prefer Tony Yoka.

jlh wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 10:41 Out of the above, I'd prefer Tony Yoka.

Would be a class fight but he’s got a fight lined up in January so won’t be him.

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:54

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:30 He needs a big name worldwide, stick him in with Wilder or Andy Ruiz. He needs to get a move on at his age.

Neither of those will be happening in mid Feb in London though.

If the price is right, why not Ruiz, he certainly hasn't fought for over six months, it would help him from stuffing himself over Christmas again.

hughie fury , the winner of parker chisora could get ready for february at a push if they wanted it , otto wallin

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 11:32

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:54

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:30 He needs a big name worldwide, stick him in with Wilder or Andy Ruiz. He needs to get a move on at his age.

Neither of those will be happening in mid Feb in London though.

If the price is right, why not Ruiz, he certainly hasn't fought for over six months, it would help him from stuffing himself over Christmas again.

If the price is right then let’s go Wilder.

Frank would need to spend several million on Ruiz given he’s now perceived as Ppv fighter in the US. I genuinely can’t remember the last time he brought a fighter over here for that kind of money.

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 12:55

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 11:32

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:54

Neither of those will be happening in mid Feb in London though.

If the price is right, why not Ruiz, he certainly hasn't fought for over six months, it would help him from stuffing himself over Christmas again.

If the price is right then let’s go Wilder.

Frank would need to spend several million on Ruiz given he’s now perceived as Ppv fighter in the US. I genuinely can’t remember the last time he brought a fighter over here for that kind of money.

Probably only Mike Tyson.

And why on earth would Wilder want someone with a granite chin and endless stamina for a tenth of the money he's used to?

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 13:44

maverick23 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 12:55

IRONFIST wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 11:32

If the price is right, why not Ruiz, he certainly hasn't fought for over six months, it would help him from stuffing himself over Christmas again.

If the price is right then let’s go Wilder.

Frank would need to spend several million on Ruiz given he’s now perceived as Ppv fighter in the US. I genuinely can’t remember the last time he brought a fighter over here for that kind of money.

Probably only Mike Tyson.

You may well be right. Perhaps Tszyu? I would have thought he’d have cost a few million but only guessing. Maybe Lacy too.

We can hope for the best, and expect disappointment.
I agree about Joe's age, and where is the urgency.
I do hope it's not Pulev though. Joe would mess him up.

realistically it cant get much better than pulev, almost everyone else is spoken for or has much better options than joe joyce in uk

Its a hard one. Joyce needs big fights for his carrer, but then why risk his mandatory with too big a fight (although that mandatory is complicated, still needs the usyk AJ rematch, then whoever wins that will try go undisputed blah blah).

Pulev has been mentioned, i dont mind that. I dont rate current pulev, but if joyce can beat him up its a decent win. Otto would be nice, dont rate otto massivly either but vs joe its a fun match up (joe is like a non shit breazeal somtimes). Hellenious? havent heard it mentioned but i think joe monsters him, good to get the fight while hele is grossly over rated.

any better than them ill be shocked.

I don't think Joyce is WBO mandatory yet, Usyk was in September. Joyce is just number 1 contender it seems.

WBA and IBF are in front of WBO plus an undisputed fight will take preference after Usyk Joshua II.

peter barlow wrote: ↑16 Dec 2021, 08:31 Talk of Kubrat Pulev

That would do it. Pulev just had a huuuge win.