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Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 09:53
by Glass Joe
After last night where Jonas got surved a world title on a plate what other examples were fighters gifted a world title?

Shannon Courtenay against Ebanie Bridges, could had been the other way round.
Lennox Lewis being handed the WBC title.
Junior Witter getting a pretty easy vacant WBC title shot against DeMarcus Corley

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 09:55
by ewenhay
Khan himself was gifted an opportunity he didn't deserve coming off the defeat to Prescott.

Joshua had his bought for him by Matchroom.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 09:58
by bigjack
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 09:53 After last night where Jonas got surved a world title on a plate what other examples were fighters gifted a world title?

Shannon Courtenay against Ebanie Bridges, could had been the other way round.
Lennox Lewis being handed the WBC title.
Junior Witter getting a pretty easy vacant WBC title shot against DeMarcus Corley
Do you mean fighters who were gifted the title when really they weren't good enough to beat a reigning champion ?

Lewis wasn't exactly gifted the title ,he was more than capable of beating anyonone at the time and had just destroyed Ruddock,whereas Courtney is crap.Witter was on an excellent run when he picked up his title and was very capable

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:04
by Glass Joe
Of course Lewis was gifted him a world title, they phoned him up and informed him he was a champion without fighting for a vacant world title.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:07
by DrDuke
Big Lips Haney was emailed the WBC 'title'.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:07
by bigjack
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:04 Of course Lewis was gifted him a world title, they phoned him up and informed him he was a champion without fighting for a vacant world title.
I thought the post meant picked up a title when not capable of beating a champion ?

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:09
by Glass Joe
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:07
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:04 Of course Lewis was gifted him a world title, they phoned him up and informed him he was a champion without fighting for a vacant world title.
I thought the poster meant picked up a title when not capable of beating a champion ?
either that or getting an easy shot.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:11
by bigjack
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:09
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:07
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:04 Of course Lewis was gifted him a world title, they phoned him up and informed him he was a champion without fighting for a vacant world title.
I thought the poster meant picked up a title when not capable of beating a champion ?
either that or getting an easy shot.
Ok but Jonas proved in the past she wasn't good enough anyway without the gift,Lewis on the other hand was elite

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:14
by Glass Joe
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:11
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:09
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:07

I thought the poster meant picked up a title when not capable of beating a champion ?
either that or getting an easy shot.
Ok but Jonas proved in the past she wasn't good enough anyway without the gift,Lewis on the other hand was elite
Of course Lewis was elite but he was given his first world title without having to win it in the ring.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:14
by Riddick Bowie
If we're counting WBO as world champs, virtually all British WBO world champions bar Naz. Collins had failed twice at real world titles, Eubank never even tried etc. Lots of these examples.

Herbie Hide is perhaps the definitive one. 'Two time champion' despite beating two corpses and defending successfully only against cans. Bowe and Vitali demonstrated how out of his depth he was at championship level.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:15
by Riddick Bowie
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:14
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:11
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:09

either that or getting an easy shot.
Ok but Jonas proved in the past she wasn't good enough anyway without the gift,Lewis on the other hand was elite
Of course Lewis was elite but he was given his first world title without having to win it in the ring.
Him and Tucker should have been for the vacant belt.

Being made champ in a boardroom is a bad look.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:17
by bigjack
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:14
bigjack wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:11
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:09

either that or getting an easy shot.
Ok but Jonas proved in the past she wasn't good enough anyway without the gift,Lewis on the other hand was elite
Of course Lewis was elite but he was given his first world title without having to win it in the ring.
Yes I know that,not his fault

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:18
by bigjack
Saunders was gifted his supermiddle title

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:27
by maverick23
Enzo Macarinelli against Marcelo Dominguez (was for the interim but he was upgraded afterwards).

Nathan Cleverly against Nadjib Mohammedi.

Billy Joe Saunders against Shefat Isufi.

FW was always great getting vacant title shots against crap opponents.

Ricky Burns against Michele Di Rocco.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:32
by tonyevs
Naz Hamed

Gavin Rees

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:35
by smiling assassin
Terry Flanagan

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:04 Of course Lewis was gifted him a world title, they phoned him up and informed him he was a champion without fighting for a vacant world title.
Yeh notably he’d had to have fought the next available.

You don’t just get given a belt, unless you’re already the interim.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:47
by Ruthless-RKO
ewenhay wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 09:55 Khan himself was gifted an opportunity he didn't deserve coming off the defeat to Prescott.

Joshua had his bought for him by Matchroom.
He did have one or two fights before going up to 140 and challenging for the belt.

But he did BEAT the champion.

I always think, had Fury not had to lose the IBF or any of his belt, then Martin wouldn’t have fought for the vacant belt, which was then gifted to him after His opponent broke his leg. Then who knows if Matchroom would have pushed it and if AJ’s career would have been so much more different.

Glazkov was favourite.

When Martin won, he basically called out AJ and sold his belt for the $6m he received.

A very good business move.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:47
by Ruthless-RKO
smiling assassin wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:35 Terry Flanagan
Unfortunate for Zepeda who have injured his shoulder so early on. Look at what he’s done since.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 10:49
by Ruthless-RKO
Billy Tully wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 10:14 If we're counting WBO as world champs, virtually all British WBO world champions bar Naz. Collins had failed twice at real world titles, Eubank never even tried etc. Lots of these examples.

Herbie Hide is perhaps the definitive one. 'Two time champion' despite beating two corpses and defending successfully only against cans. Bowe and Vitali demonstrated how out of his depth he was at championship level.
Yh the 90’s WBO champions, which was majority Brits eh in most divisions.

Would you include Johnny Nelson?

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 11:13
by Old bones Ian
Well Larry Holmes, Aaron Pryor, Donald Curry and Marvin Hagler were all gifted their IBF titles.
But I'd hardly call them undeserving

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 11:49
by DrDuke
Ken Norton was awarded the WBC belt outside of the ring.

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 11:49
by handsofstone
Joshua

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 11:50
by JamesPhilips
Ken Norton

Re: Fighters who were gifted a world title?

Posted: 20 Feb 2022, 12:46
by TheGman
Glass Joe wrote: 20 Feb 2022, 09:53 After last night where Jonas got surved a world title on a plate what other examples were fighters gifted a world title?

Shannon Courtenay against Ebanie Bridges, could had been the other way round.
Lennox Lewis being handed the WBC title.
Junior Witter getting a pretty easy vacant WBC title shot against DeMarcus Corley
Lewis was gifted his title but who's fault was that? He wanted bowe and confronted bowe at his title win against holyfield but bowe decided to bin the belt,Lewis was worthy of that title and his resume and title defences can confirm this.
Look at Bruno he was gifted his wbc knowing that whoever he fights after that the title ain't gonna be his after it.
Same as Jonas,whoever she fights next is taking that title