What fights are you GLAD never happened?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 20 Feb 2005, 07:54

As we all know in the World of Boxing there is constant talk of fighter A fighting fighter B. Most of the time us fans look forward to the possibility of these encounters.

However sometimes there is talk of a fight which fills you with dread for various reasons. So which fights were seriously talked about or even sighed for that NEVER happened and you pleased that they didn't?

To get the ball rolling....

(1) Circa 1978. Muhammad Ali Vs Kent Green. Towards the end of Ali's glorious career there was serious talk of the faded, near shot Ali fighting the man who had stopped him in the 1957 Golden Gloves tornament. As a profesional Kent Green was just a journeyman who at that time had not fought for ten years. It would have been a freakshow.

(2) Circa mid 90's Frank Bruno Vs Ray Mercer. I think this fight was actually signed but the promotion collapsed. From a UK fight fan perspective I thought style wise this fight was all wrong for big Frank. If Mercer turned up in shape amd motivated he had the chin, jab and power to stop Frank Bruno in about 8 rounds, IMO.

(3) Circa early 90's Julio Cesar Chavez Vs Terry Norris. There was a lot of talk at this time about Light-Welterweight Chavez jumping up to Light-Middleweight to challenge the big punching 11st king Norris. As great a fighter as Chavez was he had no business or need fighting at the much higher weight against such a dangerous fighter as Norris.

Any more fight fans???

crooked nose · Post by **crooked nose** » 20 Feb 2005, 15:47

Remember the buzz about Ali vs. Wilt Chamberlain? Now that would have been a real freak show. Plans actually got to the serious talking stage before sanity prevailed. I can't remember if that happened during Ali's exile or while he was still recognized as champ.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 21 Feb 2005, 20:52

..before ali/chamberlin there was talk about patterson/chamberlin, which was even sillier. i have a ring magazine with a photo of the two of them in a fighting stance. david and goliath.....but in this case it would have been goliath who needeed the slingshot....and a lot more. my assessment is that a boxer trained to his peak is the best conditioned athlete in the world. ffloyd was not one to brag, but many years later when that "fight" came up in a conversation, he said he would have beaten chamberlin without landing punch...just by making him move around until he quit from exhausted. so....just imagine how the ali match would have turned out.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 25 Feb 2005, 17:49

crooked nose wrote:Remember the buzz about Ali vs. Wilt Chamberlain? Now that would have been a real freak show. Plans actually got to the serious talking stage before sanity prevailed. I can't remember if that happened during Ali's exile or while he was still recognized as champ.

I know liitle about Chamberlain but I inderstand he was an increadable athlete and would have had great height and reach advantages over Ali but he was NOT a trained fighter. Your right it would have been a freakshow.

Wasn't there talk of Chamberlain being trained by Cus D'amato?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 02 Mar 2005, 15:58

There was also talk in the late 1980's of Mike Tyson fighting some huge 300lbs Americain Football player. I can't recall his name but it sounded italian something like Tony Marrilino????

I'm sure Lou Duva was going to train him?

I think the guy is in jail now?

Johnny Carwash · Post by **Johnny Carwash** » 02 Mar 2005, 20:38

KOJOE90 wrote:There was also talk in the late 1980's of Mike Tyson fighting some huge 300lbs Americain Football player. I can't recall his name but it sounded italian something like Tony Marrilino????

I'm sure Lou Duva was going to train him?

I think the guy is in jail now?

Tony Mandarich. He was a huge prospect coming out of college and was drafted by the Green Bay Packers. I think the story was that it took a while for the Packers to sign him, and in the meantime he had talked about fighting Mike Tyson for a paycheck. He ended up playing a few years and being a major disappointment.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 03 Mar 2005, 00:00

kojoe...yeah..damato talked about training chamberlain, but at the time i didn't take him seriously and i don't think anyone else did either.

when the talk first started about floyd fighting the stilt, cus talked about making it an exhibition, which he frankly stated was a way to get around the boxing commissions getting involved but said it would be a legitimate contest. again....it was mostly for publicity and got some striking photos printed and that was about it.

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 13 Mar 2005, 11:16

Ali Vs John L Gardner. It was bad enough Ali going out with a loss to Berbick, losing to Gardner would have been even sadder.

bollox · Post by **bollox** » 13 Mar 2005, 16:30

Hagler V Michael Spinks. Don't think it was ever seriously considered but wouldn't have wanted to see it happen, just the same

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 13 Mar 2005, 17:20

Jones Jr vs Michaczewski. Dariusz was a sitting duck and his good chin would have made this a prolonged beating.

The Scranton Assassin · Post by **The Scranton Assassin** » 14 Mar 2005, 23:58

Shaq - Lennox Lewis. Stupid Shaq realy thought Lewis would actualy consider fighting him. Lewis would have knocked him out in 30 seconds.

tennessee · Post by **tennessee** » 16 Mar 2005, 21:06

holmes-foreman, big george eating jabs and getting slapped down would have been a disgrace. lewis-bowe, bowe with all that talent and getting blasted out in 1 would have been more than i could handle, being a bowe fan

Sugar Dus Leonard · Post by **Sugar Dus Leonard** » 17 Mar 2005, 09:28

As a boxing fan I would have just hated to see Roy Jones vs Antonio Tarver, Jones has a suspect chin and may have been stopped which is something i'd hate to see being a Jones fan.

Wait a tic... you say that fight happened already? ARGH!!!

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 11 Feb 2006, 15:30

Holmes-Dokes. Larry would've killed him before 1983.
Hagler-Benitez.Marvin would've destroyed Wilfred and ended his career.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 11 Feb 2006, 15:36

revporl wrote:Ali Vs John L Gardner. It was bad enough Ali going out with a loss to Berbick, losing to Gardner would have been even sadder.

I am sure I have a picture of a very overweight Ali sparring Gardner somewhere.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 11 Feb 2006, 15:47

Sugar Ray Robinson -v- Floyd Patterson (1959).

This would have happened if Patterson had of beaten Johansson.

Floyd would have murdered the ageing Robinson.

As good as SRR was, he wasn't a heavyweight & he was way too old.

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 11 Feb 2006, 15:49

Johnny Carwash wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:There was also talk in the late 1980's of Mike Tyson fighting some huge 300lbs Americain Football player. I can't recall his name but it sounded italian something like Tony Marrilino????

I'm sure Lou Duva was going to train him?

I think the guy is in jail now?
Tony Mandarich. He was a huge prospect coming out of college and was drafted by the Green Bay Packers. I think the story was that it took a while for the Packers to sign him, and in the meantime he had talked about fighting Mike Tyson for a paycheck. He ended up playing a few years and being a major disappointment.

Ahh, the Incredible Bulk. He was supposedly going to be the greatest O-lineman to ever play the game of football. Didn't quite work out that way though

I guess those analysts forgot that you can't be a great O-lineman solely based on weight room strength.

However, if it wasn't for Mandarich, Green Bay may have never had the great combo of Holmgren and Favre.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 11 Feb 2006, 16:49

I bet Chuck Wepner wishes he never had his little exhibition with Andre The Giant. I think Andre picked him up over his head and threw him into the 5th row. I dont think Chuck took the fall real well.

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 11 Feb 2006, 16:55

KOJOE90 wrote:As we all know in the World of Boxing there is constant talk of fighter A fighting fighter B. Most of the time us fans look forward to the possibility of these encounters.

However sometimes there is talk of a fight which fills you with dread for various reasons. So which fights were seriously talked about or even sighed for that NEVER happened and you pleased that they didn't?

To get the ball rolling....

(1) Circa 1978. Muhammad Ali Vs Kent Green. Towards the end of Ali's glorious career there was serious talk of the faded, near shot Ali fighting the man who had stopped him in the 1957 Golden Gloves tornament. As a profesional Kent Green was just a journeyman who at that time had not fought for ten years. It would have been a freakshow.

(2) Circa mid 90's Frank Bruno Vs Ray Mercer. I think this fight was actually signed but the promotion collapsed. From a UK fight fan perspective I thought style wise this fight was all wrong for big Frank. If Mercer turned up in shape amd motivated he had the chin, jab and power to stop Frank Bruno in about 8 rounds, IMO.

(3) Circa early 90's Julio Cesar Chavez Vs Terry Norris. There was a lot of talk at this time about Light-Welterweight Chavez jumping up to Light-Middleweight to challenge the big punching 11st king Norris. As great a fighter as Chavez was he had no business or need fighting at the much higher weight against such a dangerous fighter as Norris.

Any more fight fans???

Man, KENT GREEN, For years back in the 70s at every Golden Gloves in Chicago he was introduced to the crowd as the guy who K.Od Ali. Always well recieved. The young kids were always wide eyed.Last I heard he owned a store here in Chicago.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 11 Feb 2006, 17:49

Ali vs Mike Weaver... Ali almost fought Weaver instaed of Berbick...
Ali vs John Tate... there was serious talk of this fight taking place after the Berbick fight... luckily Ali was talked out of it...
Holyfield vs Bowe 4... so far it hasn't happened
Holyfield vs Tyson 3.... so far!....
Lewis vs Klitchenko 2... I'm not a huge Lewis fan but it would have been a shame to see him come back and lose to Klitchenko...

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 12 Feb 2006, 02:43

..there was never..never ever..any serious consideration of a match between sugar ray robinson and patterson. none. zilch. strictly some flak to get both fighters some unusual publicity. no chance of a match. nada.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 12 Feb 2006, 07:37

silkov wrote:Ali vs John Tate... there was serious talk of this fight taking place after the Berbick fight... luckily Ali was talked out of it...

Wasn't there talk of that fight being held in South Africa?

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 12 Feb 2006, 08:06

KOJOE90 wrote:
silkov wrote:Ali vs John Tate... there was serious talk of this fight taking place after the Berbick fight... luckily Ali was talked out of it...
Wasn't there talk of that fight being held in South Africa?

Probably. Is it true that Ali fought Berbick in the Bahamas because he couldn't get licencsed in America?... I seem to remember reading this somewhere...

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 12 Feb 2006, 08:11

expug wrote:I bet Chuck Wepner wishes he never had his little exhibition with Andre The Giant. I think Andre picked him up over his head and threw him into the 5th row. I dont think Chuck took the fall real well.

I read Wepner injured his back in that fall. Apparently Andre got confused a threw Wepner over the wrong side of the ring, the side without the extra floor padding!!

Didn't Leon Spinks 'fight' a wrestler on that card as well?

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 12 Feb 2006, 08:19

Ali vs Duane Bobick

Larry Holmes vs Ken Shamrock in an mma match

And altough it wasn't an actual fight, there was serious negotiations between Vince McMahon and Don King in late 1989 about putting together a title vs title match between Mike Tyson and Hulk Hogan.

They apparently were going to set it up by having Tyson be the special ref in a tag team match on saturday night's main event but Tyson got Koed by Buster Douglas and the plans were scrapped. Douglas got the gig as the special ref in that match though.

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