Did Greb fight many big punchers?

[pound per pound]

I don't think he did despite numerous fights. He also did not draw the color line. With his style you'd figure a puncher would be his toughest match up because he was so active. Greb scribes a.k.a Klompton set us straight.

[pound per pound]

I don't think he did despite numerous fights. He also did not draw the color line. With his style you'd figure a puncher would be his toughest match up because he was so active. Greb scribes a.k.a Klompton set us straight.

[pound per pound]

He certainly had a lot of fights. However he didn't fight many punchers like Stanely Ketchel or Gorilla Jones...guys with a high KO %. He did fight Tunney and he had a solid punch at light heavyweight . Did you know that Tunney offered him a 6ht fight? Gerb said no thanks. He said Tunney was getting too big. A pity that one might have been filmed. As such Greb was never tested by a true puncher. At least I think so. What does the panel think?

[Controversial]

One for klompton

[Wee Tommy]

Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

[pound per pound]

Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

[Wee Tommy]

Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

They were known as big punchers in their time.

Btw your theory is a load of rubbish. Grebs chin untested after all the fights he had. Ridiculous.

[pound per pound]

Frank Moody, Mickey Walker and Kid Norfolk were good punchers. In all his fights, I would bet he fought a lot more than just that.

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

They were known as big punchers in their time.

Btw your theory is a load of rubbish. Grebs chin untested after all the fights he had. Ridiculous.

No, they were not known punchers. I listed a few. Greb meet everyone, but he did not meet any punchers aside for from Tunney if your call him a puncher. Greb's chin was tested but not at a high level. That is my point. By saying it Ridiculous surely you jest. List the names so I can laugh at them by listing real punchers if you can. Now go!

[Ambling Alp II]

Tommy Gibbons, Bill Brennan, Billy Miske, Jack Dillion.

[Wee Tommy]

Calling the good punchers is stretching it a bit. Their KO% is average and this is with cutting out fights that happened outside to their primes. They failed to finish lots of guys the others who fought them finished. I'd say they were solid hitters. Not good punchers.

Anyone else? Perhaps Gerb never faced any punchers on the level of Monzon, Hagler, Cerdan, Sugar Robison, Golovkin, Ketchel, R Jones and company. I don't have a list of top middle weight punchers, but if I did suspect Gerb did face anyone in the top 20. As such his chin was untested on the highest level. A rare hole in his resume that has never been discussed. A developing theory.

They were known as big punchers in their time.

Btw your theory is a load of rubbish. Grebs chin untested after all the fights he had. Ridiculous.

No, they were not known punchers. I listed a few. Greb meet everyone, but he did not meet any punchers aside for from Tunney if your call him a puncher. Greb's chin was tested but not at a high level. That is my point. By saying it Ridiculous surely you jest. List the names so I can laugh at them by listing real punchers if you can. Now go!

I don’t know what is wrong with you, but I’m definitely not on the same weird wavelength you are here, so I will pass. My only comment is that you sound like your having mental issues and perhaps should speak to someone professional.

[pound per pound]

Okay " Wee " Tommy. I won't ask you for something hard, like to produce names of punchers he meet, only to laugh at you definition of a punchers.

[Wee Tommy]

Okay " Wee " Tommy. I won't ask you for something hard, like to produce names of punchers he meet, only to laugh at you definition of a punchers.

Why are you laughing? That’s what I find strange and repulsive about your questions. You posed them so you could then laugh at the answers?

Creepy guy.

You’ve clearly made up your tiny mind that Harry Grebs not as good as advertised. That his opposition wasn’t that good and that he never fought any punchers. Which of course is absurd.

Carry on tho making a fool of yourself.

[1038021]

I suggest that you two continues your quarrel in PM.

[Ambling Alp II]

Greb certainly fought some good punchers. Just the fact that he was really just a middleweight (a small light heavy at most) and was fighting heavyweight contenders has to count for something. And some top light heavyweights as well. Some of these he guys he fought several times.

[Wee Tommy]

Greb certainly fought some good punchers. Just the fact that he was really just a middleweight (a small light heavy at most) and was fighting heavyweight contenders has to count for something. And some top light heavyweights as well. Some of these he guys he fought several times.

Recently there’s been some very stupid posts in this forum. The OP ranks right up there. Greb fought and beat absolutely everyone from welterweight to heavyweight except the champs who wouldn’t fight him, like Jack Dempsey.

Now you have a few numpties reading boxrec making it all up as they go along, basing everything off KO percentages and just in general coming across as idiots.

These fighters, who we have little or no film of, fought with smaller gloves, under harsher referees, at short notice and literally fight to survive. To start to pick them apart 100 years later based on a boxing record websites incomplete information is just idiotic.

In terms of Harry Greb, there is an excellent book that’s packed full of information about the man and his career from first hand sources. It took the author near a decade to research and complete. It would be the first place I’d be looking for information on Greb.

[cfang]

This is spot on. Greb had 300 fights and fought everyone bar dempsey and i guess firpo. i presume none of them were punchers? Comparing a today ko% with guys fighting no hopers for a couple of years then fighting twice a year against guys fighting with smaller gloves every week just doesn't work. It wasn't an era for punchers really. many fights were decisions as guys were fighting so often. A broken hand could mean your lost your livelyhood,

[bollocks]

If you're a middleweight fighting LHWs and HWs then all those bigger opponents are punchers. It's all relative

[Wee Tommy]

If you're a middleweight fighting LHWs and HWs then all those bigger opponents are punchers. It's all relative

Nah just spend three minutes working out KO% that’s how real research is done.

[adislav123]

greb was a well known ducker!

greb ducked literally everyone who COULD punch his way out a cardboard box!!!

greb exclusively fought featherfisted slappers who could not punch their way out of a cardboard box!

harry 'the duck' greb!!

everybody knows that.... and it's a fact!

everybody who says otherwise got zero clue about boxing history!

period.

[HomicideHenry]

One thing is for sure you could take it to the bank that most of his opponents hit harder than he did. Greb didn't really knock people out, and when he did get stoppages it was basically because they quit because they couldn't handle the pressure.

[Ambling Alp II]

If you're a middleweight fighting LHWs and HWs then all those bigger opponents are punchers. It's all relative

Nah just spend three minutes working out KO% that’s how real research is done.

[Benny The Kid]

Greb certainly fought some good punchers. Just the fact that he was really just a middleweight (a small light heavy at most) and was fighting heavyweight contenders has to count for something. And some top light heavyweights as well. Some of these he guys he fought several times.

Recently there’s been some very stupid posts in this forum. The OP ranks right up there. Greb fought and beat absolutely everyone from welterweight to heavyweight except the champs who wouldn’t fight him, like Jack Dempsey.

Now you have a few numpties reading boxrec making it all up as they go along, basing everything off KO percentages and just in general coming across as idiots.

These fighters, who we have little or no film of, fought with smaller gloves, under harsher referees, at short notice and literally fight to survive. To start to pick them apart 100 years later based on a boxing record websites incomplete information is just idiotic.

In terms of Harry Greb, there is an excellent book that’s packed full of information about the man and his career from first hand sources. It took the author near a decade to research and complete. It would be the first place I’d be looking for information on Greb.

I'm with you Wee Tommy. I'm reading that book. What you don't gather looking at a boxscore of records on Boxrec.
Is Greb literally went a few year stretch where he wasn't even losing a single round. None of that information can be gleamed looking at fight records

"To start to pick them apart 100 years later based on a boxing record websites incomplete information is just idiotic."

I find this fact very accurate. Even books give a bias option sometimes but it still holds boatloads of information.

The very best way to learn about old fighters is to read the newspapers the next day of the fight. There is ton's of information and details not included in any particular book. Some guy's are just impossible to judge correctly looking at Boxrec....which is why i would whole heartily agree with your comment.